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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#82I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…
It only shows 13 stories? And no pagination.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#83Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
So I have to stay up to date on AI stories just to know what buzzwords I should filter so I don't see AI stories?
Sounds to me like you want a deeper version of this that uses AI instead of keywords to help filter out AI stories.
At a certain point it’s ironic
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30. A bigger impact for me has been the number of mentions of AI in the comments. It's not just that a large part of the front page is dominated by LLM hype posts, it's that every single post has a least one guy near the top somehow bringing AI into the discussion. I don't even care if it's "AI will f…
> I just don't want to hear anything about AI ever again. Genuinely curious: Why? Don’t get me wrong, I upvoted this post, and would love to see AI separated out, or at least tagged (like a root comment suggests) so that I can filter them out if I want. But I can’t say I’d never want to hear anything about AI ever again (though I’m headed in that direction). What field are you in, and what are your interests, such th…
That is a wonderful question, but it's very hard to answer without essentially knowing me, and that may be a little bit ambitious for a comment.
I'm a software engineer. I consider this some of the most important work of our generation. The hardware we've made today has unlocked an until now impossible control over the world. We don't have to mechanically devise a way to make a clock that tracks the stars. We can just program it into a microchip, and it'll just do it. We don't have to manage an untold thousands of people to calculate our taxes. We can write it into a computer and it can just do it. Forever and perfectly. We're just not applying it.
I've reached the point of despair. It's not a AI doom kind of despair, where I believe that AI is going rogue or whatever. It's a much more pedestrian of despair. We have tremendous problems ahead of us. Both when it comes to the climate, but also when it comes to just doing the things that society always has to do and AI doesn't offer anything to any of the actual problems of society.
While people are dying of Ebola in Africa and Americans are dying because they can't pay for healthcare, we are talking about automating software development for ad-tech companies. It's embarrassing. This is my field, these are my people, and this is the best we have to offer.
I try to abstain from that despair by just not engaging with it. Either AI will happen and we'll take it from there, or it wont and then we'll have wasted a lot of effort and will hopefully never had any credibility as an industry again. I can't make a difference in either of those outcomes, so I just want it to go away.
Let me make it clear though. I too love the math behind recent AI. I even love the engineering behind how we do fast GEMM on GPU's. The challenges are really fun technically. That just can't be what decides our direction.
I hope that somewhat answered it a little. It's a bit hard to get such a large topic rooted so deeply in me into a comment. Thinking about the future in relation to these billion dollar companies and what they make does actually make me emotional.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.
So I have to stay up to date on AI stories just to know what buzzwords I should filter so I don't see AI stories?
Our brain decodes info based on context and extrapolation
This submission we're commenting on could be about filtering out any data, not just AI stuff. Politics, crypto, AI etc. Or more minute like "Trump" "fracking" "bitcoin" etc.
In any of these scenarios, with a tool designed to filter out content based on limited context, when would you ever be perfectly satisfied?
would you like AI to help you build the perfect context-filter model?
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30. A bigger impact for me has been the number of mentions of AI in the comments. It's not just that a large part of the front page is dominated by LLM hype posts, it's that every single post has a least one guy near the top somehow bringing AI into the discussion. I don't even care if it's "AI will f…
I noted that too, to the point where I'm suspecting that "that guy" (obviously not just one user) is being paid to do so. I've started downvoting them, the same way I always downvote "I fed this to an LLM and here's what it spat out".
I have had that same thought when I see them as one of the first comments on a post. I can't do anything with that suspicion, how would I prove it, but it's definitely there.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Top story: Kiro: new agentic IDE
I just added "agent" to the default exclusion list.
"Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent"
"Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who built Covid-19 dashboard"
"Confessions of an ex-TSA agent"
"Terrible real estate agent photographs"
etc etc
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#89I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…
Probably would work better as a userscript, so you don't have to rely on a random personal website never going down just to use HN. I don't have a ChatGPT account but I am curious as to if it could do that automatically too.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#90I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…
To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse)
Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it.
Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.