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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by balanced2 »

rickydroll wrote: post #60
balanced2 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Filtering out news with (probably more than) some bias seems dangerous in encouraging echo chambers. I have been extremely happy to find https://www.allsides.com/ Especially when it surfaces a topic with three articles from across the bias spectrum, it feels very rewarding being able to get a fuller picture.

Sometimes there aren't multiple sides, especially when it comes to science reporting. You have fact-based reporting, and then you have conspiracy theories. How would you handle news where there is sufficient evidence to show one set of reporting is accurate and relatively unbiased, but another report is all made up and designed to inflame its audience?

In this example it sounds like there are multiple sides, just that one is baseless. Even these though I have found come from somewhere, maybe a misunderstanding or a conflation of unrelated topics. While not unlikely intentional on the author's side, the readers are not so sinister I think. Being able to read this while grounded with the other more factual side helps when discussing with those I may otherwise generally disagree with. It has felt somewhat like language learning, understanding it helps with communication with people with a very different background.

Admittedly it takes more time to do this, and I can see not being able to invest that in a general sense. I personally think it's worth it.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by jemmyw »

ipcress_file wrote: post #6
ofalkaed wrote: post #2

Oddly enough I had been considering making a similar thread but asking for something akin to HN but with less non-tech news. Perhaps the question that both I and OP are asking is, does anyone know of a site that stays on topic? >Thoughts? If this doesn’t exist, would people be interested in it being created, and does anyone think it has a chance of taking off There is absolutely a market for it but it will eventually…

I think lobste.rs stays on topic (computers and programming).

They banned the Brave user agent I use, for a transgression from many years ago and hasn't reoccurred, and has nothing to do with the way I use that browser. That's their choice of course, but not one I respect - different if it was an ongoing issue. Why don't they ban Chrome or Firefox for their various and more recent privacy violating problems?

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by bufferoverflow »

fake-name wrote: post #17
bufferoverflow wrote: post #8

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Good luck with that. Their moderation is too insane and not transparent for my taste. And, considering HN is quite far left, you won't create anything new really.

You think HN is left ? Ha. HN is at best center-right.

O RLY? Which right-wing positions are common/popular on HN?

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by [deleted] »

fake-name wrote: post #17
bufferoverflow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck with that. Their moderation is too insane and not transparent for my taste. And, considering HN is quite far left, you won't create anything new really.

You think HN is left ? Ha. HN is at best center-right.

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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by rickydroll »

leereeves wrote: post #79
const_cast wrote: post #74

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I agree with what you say about sensationalist science reporting. It's very common to take one study and then have dummies who aren't scientists report on it as if we've just found out how to live forever. Science is very tricky because it's complicated and the barrier to entry is high - you can't just extrapolate things out like that. However, there's also the other side of things, which is mostly established scienc…

I'm not familiar with all the details of RFK Jr's position, the public debate about it, nor how many of the things reported in the news are accurate (truth being the first casualty of politics). But I just looked for those topics in the official Make America Healthy Again report [1]. The positions in that report on those topics were not so unreasonable. It says seed oils are a concern because they are ultra-processed…

> even if he is wrong about a few details.

https://www.notus.org/health-science/make-america-healthy-ag...

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by BrawnyBadger53 »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #65
fake-name wrote: post #26

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Reddit isn't far right, except some esoteric subs either. Reddit is generally fairly centrist-left for the most part.

Name any far-left position that's not widely supported on Reddit.

Price controls, direct democracy, abolishing capital. I'm sure you can find places where these are supported but similarly you can find subreddits where far right ideology is supported. The average redditor looks at memes, askreddit threads, and whatever hobby subreddit exists for them.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by bufferoverflow »

BrawnyBadger53 wrote: post #87
bufferoverflow wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name any far-left position that's not widely supported on Reddit.

Price controls, direct democracy, abolishing capital. I'm sure you can find places where these are supported but similarly you can find subreddits where far right ideology is supported. The average redditor looks at memes, askreddit threads, and whatever hobby subreddit exists for them.

All of these are widely supported on Reddit.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by zvr »

balanced2 wrote: post #55
jaynetics wrote: post #50

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This is very true. But perhaps the more important filtering is on quantity as opposed to neutrality? Perhaps filtering out a large amount of news, even with some bias, is the lesser evil, as compared to news outlets that depend on stirring the emotions of their readers every single day? Wikinews used to be okay in this regard, but the German version I used has died down a bit, and the English one is even more centere…

Filtering out news with (probably more than) some bias seems dangerous in encouraging echo chambers. I have been extremely happy to find https://www.allsides.com/ Especially when it surfaces a topic with three articles from across the bias spectrum, it feels very rewarding being able to get a fuller picture.

That's an interesting approach. Unfortunately it's too US-centric (probably by design).

Does anyone know anything similar covering international news?

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