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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by vladms »

ecshafer wrote: post #49
coldpie wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're correct, but this is quite a boring response. If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. It is an uphill battle, but I wish the OP luck all the same.

Do you think its a better place, or do the users think its a better place? Take political partisanship out of it. So its about a 30/30/40 breakdown between Trump/Harris/None. So 70% of people either Support or Don't care that much about Trump, and that's assuming that every single democratic voter is angry enough to quit Facebook over this, this is probably not true. You are looking at probably >85% of people that do…

Is Facebook though the perfect community tool? Using centralized systems has advantages (simple/easy/available/cheap) but also disadvantages (less customization/less control/more expensive). When Facebook appeared maybe the alternatives were not there due to technical complexity is this still the case nowadays?...

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by bottled_poe »

ecshafer wrote: post #14

> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

Exactly, is OP really the one who should be influencing others preferences? Most couldn’t give two shits about the technological perils that await them just over the horizon - and should you really be the one to inform them of those horrors? Just relax - and embrace the book of faces. The movement will be swift and relatively painless, mostly.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

myheartisinohio wrote: post #83
scarface_74 wrote: post #69

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Musk has been promoting his views and demoting post that he doesn’t agree with.

meta =/= x

> The good news is that Facebook, X, and the Trump administration have publicly committed to, and signed executive orders to unravel that censorship complex.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by rcstank »

scarface_74 wrote: post #69
nyokodo wrote: post #66

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Musk has been promoting his views and demoting post that he doesn’t agree with.

Do you have proof of this? My feed is catered to how I like it, including posts that disagree with him.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by blactuary »

javier123454321 wrote: post #64
ADeerAppeared wrote: post #35

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> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

Are you talking about his role censoring for the current, or for the former admin? His flip flopping shows such a lack of character. However, being selectively outraged because this time he is doing it for someone you disagree with, which a lot of people are, reveals the real motives.

He didn't censor for the former president

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by blactuary »

nyokodo wrote: post #66
ADeerAppeared wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

[flagged]

Everything you said here is false

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by latexr »

Are we talking 50k people per town? So over a quarter of a million people in total, each with more connections to other people outside said towns?

I applaud and encourage your chutzpah, but I’m not too optimistic about your prospects. Do you want to move your community out of Facebook, or does the community want to do it? Do they even agree with your reasons for wanting to move, or is it possible they actually agree with Zuckerberg and voted for Trump?

Remember you only have one shot. With that large of a group, you’ll find people with all levels of skill, patience, and ideology. If your solution isn’t immediately better (not equal; better) than Facebook, you already lost. It doesn’t need to be better at everything, but it does need to be better at the most important and most used features. And make sure you believe in the cause enough to be the goto person for every question.

Make a list of what the platform needs to support and do and come back with that. Then test, test, test. You won’t succeed if you rush, people move slowly.

Best of luck to you.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by LinuxBender »

The only alternative I can think of that all of your community probably already have is email. Set up an email mailing list and lock it down so only members of your community and those invited by your community can use it. Despite the wishes of some here email will never go away and will be used by anyone communicating with businesses.

For your bonus criteria email can be self hosted but that's a more complicated topic as it pertains to mailing lists. At least a couple people in your community should be at list technical enough to follow internet examples. Mailing lists are federated per the spirit of the definition as they can each use their own existing email provider.

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