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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Didn’t Samsung introduce their own App Store? https://galaxystore.samsung.com/

it ships both app stores on every android phone. In my experience, people only use the Samsung store by accident

I was just refuting the “only Chinese phones have alt stores” factoid.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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it ships both app stores on every android phone. In my experience, people only use the Samsung store by accident

I was just refuting the “only Chinese phones have alt stores” factoid.

The OPs main point was that the existence of sideloading or third-party app stores hasn't led to major security issues. And apps still have to comply with the sandboxing.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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I would use it more but after an hour I have ENORMOUS bags under my eyes that last for 24-36 hours. I've tried multiple 3rd party accessories but to little success. My wife is not a fan. Otherwise I would code and work in them for a few hours a day. I find the environment incredibly focusing. I do not have this issue using the Oculus Pro, or any of the myriad headsets I've had in the past.

Try a head strap that doesn't put pressure on your face. Like an aura strap. I'm sure there's some third party options available. I use the bobovr for my quest but don't have the money for AVP.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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I would use it more but after an hour I have ENORMOUS bags under my eyes that last for 24-36 hours. I've tried multiple 3rd party accessories but to little success. My wife is not a fan. Otherwise I would code and work in them for a few hours a day. I find the environment incredibly focusing. I do not have this issue using the Oculus Pro, or any of the myriad headsets I've had in the past.

Try a head strap that doesn't put pressure on your face. Like an aura strap. I'm sure there's some third party options available. I use the bobovr for my quest but don't have the money for AVP.

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Yes, I do. It’s an amazing monitor and combination iPad. It’s very different than what is easy to describe - partially because it defies convention in so many ways - but I use it with my Mac and then will have mail and chat and music floating on the sides. Btw I said iPad. Apple says it’s a computer. Falls short in some key ways, but not unfixable It is heavy but I don’t mind it. I can see how that might be a deal br…

I'm of the opinion that Apple will never natively allow unmanaged code outside macOS due to app store revenue. I mean if the AVP fails it would be a huge write down but if it wins and allows people to circumvent the Apple tax that's still a fail for the company.

I know. This is the real reason, not the purported "security issues". Apple just wants to sell their hugely expensive cake and eat it. The only reason that macOS is not locked down is historical. Because it's always been open and people would be screaming if they took it away.

It's a shame as a user. I paid for the device, I should decide what happens on it. Apple doesn't have an innate right to store revenue.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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This is the best review I have ever read on the Apple Vision Pro. Also, we should probably stop lying to ourselves, and finally admit what we have known in hour hearts for a little while now: Apple is not anymore what it used to be. Reading this makes it clear… Apple Vision Pro is the modern equivalent of John Sculley’s Apple Newton

Not sure this is really an Apple thing. Basically all the tech companies have released some VR or AR product that either flopped, or was downgraded to a niche industry product. Remember just a few years ago when Meta was trying to convince us that the metaverse was the future.

Meta didn't stop with that though?

Just a few weeks ago they released new products that actually have a much bigger potential then the Vision Pro for the usecases virgildotcode imagined. I.e. Orion AR. As a person that only knows about it from the presentation/demos it kinda sounded like a crossover of VR headset and Google Glasses

https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/introducing-orion-our-firs...

Though I sincerely doubt it will succeed at a wider audience either, even if it's mass market appeal is way higher.

The tech just isn't there yet - we'd need 4-8+k displays per eye with batteries that need to last at least 10 hours for this to become really viable (even if we could probably compromise batteries with a usb-c connection to the laptop for this particular usecase)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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I tried, and went back to laptop+monitor. In theory it would be great when on the go, but it doesn't really function without a laptop present, which makes it pretty unwieldy as you need two devices. In theory it would be good in a the back seat of a car or when walking around, except the software doesn't allow you to do that (windows are pinned to space outside the car, you can't make them follow you). When I'm at a…

What 8k screen are you using? Do you recommend it?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Not sure this is really an Apple thing. Basically all the tech companies have released some VR or AR product that either flopped, or was downgraded to a niche industry product. Remember just a few years ago when Meta was trying to convince us that the metaverse was the future.

Meta didn't stop with that though? Just a few weeks ago they released new products that actually have a much bigger potential then the Vision Pro for the usecases virgildotcode imagined. I.e. Orion AR. As a person that only knows about it from the presentation/demos it kinda sounded like a crossover of VR headset and Google Glasses https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/introducing-orion-our-firs... Though I sincerely dou…

orion is not _released_ though. it is 'this is what we are working on'.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Meta didn't stop with that though? Just a few weeks ago they released new products that actually have a much bigger potential then the Vision Pro for the usecases virgildotcode imagined. I.e. Orion AR. As a person that only knows about it from the presentation/demos it kinda sounded like a crossover of VR headset and Google Glasses https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/introducing-orion-our-firs... Though I sincerely dou…

orion is not _released_ though. it is 'this is what we are working on'.

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Meta didn't stop with that though? Just a few weeks ago they released new products that actually have a much bigger potential then the Vision Pro for the usecases virgildotcode imagined. I.e. Orion AR. As a person that only knows about it from the presentation/demos it kinda sounded like a crossover of VR headset and Google Glasses https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/introducing-orion-our-firs... Though I sincerely dou…

orion is not _released_ though. it is 'this is what we are working on'.

True, I really should've said announced.

Nonetheless, that should strengthen my point - as my comment was a rebuttal Gogachads nonchalant past tense wrt Metas ongoing investment into the metaverse. Metas main goal is still exactly that, ever since their pivot

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