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Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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> Why not simply inject a tiny bit of client side CSS and fix it yourself? True to the hacker spirit. Because, as the OP states, i'm on a phone.

In that case you can use Firefox Mobile and Tampermonkey addon to inject custom CSS.

Well you just changed my life. I've used Firefox Mobile for years but never considered that Tampermonkey might have been among the supported add-ons...

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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I prefer it to most sites, it leaves more room for text. HN feels much more information dense than similar websites like reddit.

Take a look at tildes’s website. It’s orders of magnitude better, while still showing more content.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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Your web browser is broken. Well, they all are. Browsers on small screens should be built to browse web pages on small screens. There are seemingly obvious things to do like increasing font sizes[0] and margins -- the browser decides what to do with the content, after all. But such things aren't true solutions when the page is designed for a different device / resolution / form factor[1]. Your problem is with input t…

Web browsers (and the whole touch input stack really) are already fully aware of touch precision and do very clever things to infer what you're actually trying to touch. In my experience it's already surprisingly accurate, too. Saying that making things bigger isn't a solution is nonsense. Shifting blames to browser makers is even less of a solution. Making HN 200% bigger if it detect a small screen would fix most is…

The whole stack is undoubtedly doing a heap of clever things, they are very impressive devices. I'm not sure what "fully aware of touch precision" means exactly. I mentioned precision a few times to hint at the common misunderstandings about precision and the irony of interpreting subpixel touch coordinates as literal point/s that the user touched, deliberately and specifically, when they were generated from someone smooshing a number of body parts against a small touch screen display.

Simply making things bigger isn't a comprehensive solution (to what is a difficult user input problem, as you know), but it is something that can help, and crucially can be implemented in web browsers. I want web browsers to be less cowed by web designers/developers, to empower the users.

I'm not trying to change your mind/experience. I know that a lot of people must be similarly unaffected by such issues. Not everyone is in that privileged group, however.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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Why not simply inject a tiny bit of client side CSS and fix it yourself? True to the hacker spirit.

> Why not simply inject a tiny bit of client side CSS and fix it yourself? True to the hacker spirit. Because, as the OP states, i'm on a phone.

You should be able to do that on iOS with an extension like Hyperweb

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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> Why not simply inject a tiny bit of client side CSS and fix it yourself? True to the hacker spirit. Because, as the OP states, i'm on a phone.

What a sad state of affairs that this is a successful counter argument. There no technical reason that pocket computers should be incapable of applying user styles. Alas, we allowed the advent of a new technology ratchet tighter the grasp of commercial interests over society.

You can do this on iPhone so I strongly assume you can on android too. For iOS you can use Userscripts or Stay or other apps/extensions and they can import greasemonkey scripts to auto load on specific domains. I never thought about fixing hackernews... have to look for some good scripts now

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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Link please?

Glider on Android is okay.

I love using Glider. What pains me however is how scuffed the commenting feels, and the UI jumps around a lot when opening a post with lots of comments...

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN require tiny baby fingers to operate on a phone?

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hopefully someone can create a script for phones since Firefox Nightly in Android got Tampermonkey add on

Tampermonkey is available in the stable Firefox app too, btw. Though I wish Stylus supported Firefox mobile, it's better for CSS as it only does CSS.

With Nightly and an addon collection on addons.mozilla.org, you can install Stylus too.
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