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Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#81
I use NextDNS with liberal blocking policies enabled. Things like Reddit and HN get blocked. The work to get around that is just tedious enough that much of the time I won't bother. I find also that for many of these things, the longer I go without, the easier it is to stay away. Definitely true for anything like HN that is interactive.

My work computer has DNS out of my control. So here I am. Whoops!

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#83
post #71

I made a list of my strategies for this: https://davidbieber.com/snippets/2022-03-18-attention-strate... So you don't have to click through, here they are: * Using an outliner like Roam Research * Working with another person (e.g. pair programming) * Working with another person present (e.g. independent coworking) * Running a “distraction detection” program * Mentally noting the distraction-kind and returning my atte…

Thanks for turning me on to Go Note Go. I’ve been contemplating a similar system for quite some time.

How often do you review your “Go” notes? I’m finding that’s now becoming the bottleneck in my mental model - I’ve reduced most of the friction in my output, but now there’s more activation energy for retrieval.

I’ve been using Obsidian for a week now, which I hope will pay dividends in time. Do you have a particular workflow or stack for your “second brain?”

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#84
I'm in a similar boat. I work full time but limited in opportunity there. spend a lot of time on youtube.

So, I'm working on a personal blog/platform, kind of, exactly for what your talking about. I've decided to be more productive but I haven't really settled on one idea. So, I'm building coolprojectideas.com so that I can blog(tutorials mostly) and build side projects. Plus I have like a million ideas and I wanted a place to idea vomit.

I think there are 4 phases to being successful on your own.

1. experiment publicly.

2. stumble onto something people are into

3. focus/grow that

4. repeat

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#85

I handle it by collecting quotes that tell me to knock it off. I've since started to focus on just the things I really care about: The purpose of knowledge is action, not knowledge. ― Aristotle Knowledge isn't free. You have to pay attention ― Richard Feynman "Information is not truth" ― Yuval Noah Harari If I were the plaything of every thought, I would be a fool, not a wise man. ― Rumi Dhamma is in your mind, not i…

It'd be cool if you could provide a brief explanation of what each quote means to you. Quotes can sometimes be hard to interpret when they're out of context.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#86
"Out of sight, out of mind." It's the organizing principle of my life, as somebody with ADHD and a slightly addictive personality.

1. Install App (such as Reddit) before use, delete after.

2. Scorched Earth Campaign on my Notifications settings on my smartphone

3. Stick to Hacker News, as most of it is boring irrevelant drivel these days.

4. Trained myself to recognize when I was instinctively cracking open a news website, or Social Media.

I've realized that my daily tendencies are really just repeats of some tendency from days ago, in my mind's helpless attempt to stay preoccupied. If those daily tendencies include a habit loop like "hey, this sucks, maybe crack open your phone to get out of the way of the misery", then as long as my phone is telling me to fuck right off, it operates as a reminder that I'm not interested in it.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#87

I handle it by collecting quotes that tell me to knock it off. I've since started to focus on just the things I really care about: The purpose of knowledge is action, not knowledge. ― Aristotle Knowledge isn't free. You have to pay attention ― Richard Feynman "Information is not truth" ― Yuval Noah Harari If I were the plaything of every thought, I would be a fool, not a wise man. ― Rumi Dhamma is in your mind, not i…

I like it, will steal some. I followed the same strategy and always added relevant content to this doc, then forcing myself to read it every day. It‘s a non-attributed mashup of several sources. because it‘s from my personal notes: —- Core Question: Is what I‘m currently doing helpful to my goals? Get Bored. Get Calm. Enjoy boredness. Whatever happens on the front page, I’m never involved. It seems like the whole thi…

> Uncontrolled input prevents rest, relaxation and output. All this massive time that is lost is ultimately YOURS!

Love this take. Thanks for saying it, has enriched my day today.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

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post #83
post #71

I made a list of my strategies for this: https://davidbieber.com/snippets/2022-03-18-attention-strate... So you don't have to click through, here they are: * Using an outliner like Roam Research * Working with another person (e.g. pair programming) * Working with another person present (e.g. independent coworking) * Running a “distraction detection” program * Mentally noting the distraction-kind and returning my atte…

Thanks for turning me on to Go Note Go. I’ve been contemplating a similar system for quite some time. How often do you review your “Go” notes? I’m finding that’s now becoming the bottleneck in my mental model - I’ve reduced most of the friction in my output, but now there’s more activation energy for retrieval. I’ve been using Obsidian for a week now, which I hope will pay dividends in time. Do you have a particular…

I review them frequently -- opportunistically only, but frequently nevertheless. I gather I'm unusual in this regard; most people I talk to about note taking seem to be "write only".

For myself, I write notes on Go Note Go without seeing them, but I also use Roam at a computer where I do see my notes. When there, I'm often curious to read for the first time what I wrote blindly the day before. I also go back through my notes looking for ideas to expand on (tagged e.g. #[[Snippet Ideas]]), or for TODOs for projects.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#89
Addiction is a bitch. There is no denying it.

However, there is a paradox: If everyone just stops using unmaterial goods (information, software...), who is going to use the "stuff" you are supposed to "focus on”?

Watching/listening to tons of Youtube and podcast in the right spirit could be better that producing stuff just for the sake of doing stuff. It is all about the spirit.

It is like you finally do that “Show HN” and then nobody upvotes cause “Who needs Yet another X”. If information overload is a problem, overproduction is one too (it is even its cause in the first place).

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with information and internet addiction?

#90
You describe the feeling very well. I feel exactly the same way and have to actively make an effort to avoid getting distracted.

All "bad habits" I've been able to combat has been with some mechanism where I can stop the temptation from growing in my mind. Nip it in the bud, as they say. I lost a lot of weight by killing any thoughts about snacking with the mantra "no eating anything you didn't plan to eat, ever for any reason" for example.

Thinking to myself "focus means saying no" has recently helped me close a few background-opened tabs without reading the genuinely interesting articles hiding behind them, but I have found no silver bullet. If I let myself go one night, I'm at 20 wikipedia tabs and 12 HN tabs as bedtime approaches, easy. :)

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