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I think if you have no curiosity, that is ok, but maybe you have something else (love, ambition, power) that you aspire for which requires curiosity to accomplish?
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> Engage in regular exercise, cardio is great. Don't feel like it? Do it anyway, treat it like it's meds because in a very real sense it is. This is not necessarily good advice, overtraining is a thing and actually causes depressed mood. Check heart rate variability to make sure you are rested enough to exercise. People with depression should really try to keep inflammation low, and preventing overtraining is an impo…
This is like saying an anorexic shouldn’t eat because they might eat unhealthy food. Everyone should get regular exercise. Worry about overtraining after you’ve started training at all.
I don't disagree at all with doing regular training. I'm doing 10km walks almost every day now. But everybody's metabolic capabilities are different, and rest periods are highly individual. Rest isn't optional, ask any bodybuilder.
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> Engage in regular exercise, cardio is great. Don't feel like it? Do it anyway, treat it like it's meds because in a very real sense it is. This is not necessarily good advice, overtraining is a thing and actually causes depressed mood. Check heart rate variability to make sure you are rested enough to exercise. People with depression should really try to keep inflammation low, and preventing overtraining is an impo…
This is like saying an anorexic shouldn’t eat because they might eat unhealthy food. Everyone should get regular exercise. Worry about overtraining after you’ve started training at all.
None of this is going to be "overtraining" and/or earn me medals.
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> It sounded like Feynman was pretty insecure and cared a great deal what people think about him and that they consider him a genius and a very interesting man. So, just like almost everybody else - but in his case he was indeed a genius and very interesting... > Zorba the Greek is a fictional character. Not a great role model at all, since he's purely a made up construct. Missing the point...
> So, just like almost everybody else Projection?
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> So, just like almost everybody else Projection?
No, experience with people on the planet. People care what others things of them and how they consider them, and are, more often than not, insecure about it.
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This is like saying an anorexic shouldn’t eat because they might eat unhealthy food. Everyone should get regular exercise. Worry about overtraining after you’ve started training at all.
Overtraining happens right after you start out, because you're not used to the training at that point. You're suddenly running a _huge_ ATP deficit, and ATP (and other metabolites) can't be produced on a whim, metabolism has to adapt. Many people stop right after they started because they exhausted themselves too quickly, instead of waiting 2 days and continuing then. Everybody should be worried about overtraining. N…
You do mention inflammation in a previous comment and overtraining increases it but does the negative consequence of inflammation due to overtraining on how one feels subjectively outweigh the cascade of endorphins and neurotransmitters in response to exercise that correspond to an uplift in mood or an alleviation of stress? I'm not sure but in the given context (original post) your point is valid but of much less concern probabilistically and physiologically.
I do grant however that that is only my opinion and very much up for debate.
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No, experience with people on the planet. People care what others things of them and how they consider them, and are, more often than not, insecure about it.
That may be true, but most of them don't go to the extent of writing a book whose sole intention seems to be showing how cool they are ("Surely you're joking, Mr Feynman").
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Overtraining happens right after you start out, because you're not used to the training at that point. You're suddenly running a _huge_ ATP deficit, and ATP (and other metabolites) can't be produced on a whim, metabolism has to adapt. Many people stop right after they started because they exhausted themselves too quickly, instead of waiting 2 days and continuing then. Everybody should be worried about overtraining. N…
Granted overtraining is a thing but undertraining or no training is also a thing. At the level most people are at (sedentary or undertrained) coupled with the fact that people have reasonable intuitions as to when they feel tired or not, the risks of overtraining is signficantly less that the benefits of regular exercise both physically and mentally. You do mention inflammation in a previous comment and overtraining…
Usually exercise in overtraining doesn’t feel good in the way you are describing it. It creates extra stress and the body won’t be inclined to release endorphins to encourage that behavior.
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Do you have data/studies for either side? Genuinely interested in this, because intuitively it makes sense - sleep deprivation amplifies emotions - but I also have experienced first hand that long term sleep deprivation slowly deteriorates my emotional state.
There’s probably way more going on, but the glymphatic system impairment caused by (proper) sleep deprivation could be one of the big factors. Basically the trash can’t be taken out. Here’s a paper that explores neurological disease as a result of that: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6261373/
"Another proposed mechanism of action is that the seizures induced by ECT cause a profound change in sleep architecture (a reversible inhibition of REM sleep); it is this change in the state of the organism that drives the therapeutic effects of ECT and not any simple change in the release of neurotransmitters, neurotrophic factors and/or hormones."
So a small percentage of patients not relapsing after one sleep deprivation would actually make it the best available cure with reduced risks compared to ECT.
Other treatments possibly aren't curative and have not as serious side effects as ECT, more similar to sleep deprivation.
I'm not really interested in giving anyone medical advice, etc, based on my selective reading of pubmed, I just think it is important to list treatment options neutrally and with more consideration of what self treatment patients are probably very effectively applying if managed medical treatment is supposed to have a safer and better outcome.
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This is like saying an anorexic shouldn’t eat because they might eat unhealthy food. Everyone should get regular exercise. Worry about overtraining after you’ve started training at all.
When lockdown started I built 1 mile / 30 minutes of walk every day into my routine, plus a few minutes' worth of core strength stuff etc twice per day, short enough not to bore me. (I worked out decades ago that I was never going to spend hours a day down the gym!) I think it helps, and it is at the lower end of widely agreed minimum exercise levels for physical health. And I skip it occasionally when I really want…