Ask HN: Was anyone working at Apple during Steve Jobs' return in 1997?

Post by dboreham » Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 7:10 PM UTC

ComputerGuru wrote: post #75

Communitivity wrote: post #68

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I think much of the maligning Java gets is either due to people looking at badly written Java (2k LOC classes, factories of factories of factories, 15 arg methods, import * everywhere, etc.), or claims in error because they are not based on modern Java (claiming bad parallelism a la Hensen, citing a lack of modules, noting no functional support). I think Java is a good language if your problem space is ok with the GC…

Java has long been crippled beyond the regular GC limitations by lack of value types, but that’s finally, finally going away.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 7:15 PM UTC

hot_gril wrote: post #71

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The "TikTok threat" is so overblown. It's not activity competing with any existing social or video platform. It's competing for time, but that's about it. No one is using TikTok to stay in touch with their Grandmother or watching 2 hour Podcasts on it. They invented a new type of video entertainment which has a social element, that's it - it's neither a YouTube or a social network competitor. I'd argue Snapchat is pr…

It directly competes for some use cases, for time, and for ads. One person's total time spent watching videos doesn't grow just because there's a new platform on the block. Kids even use TikTok as an alternative to Google searches for knowledge. I'm not saying TikTok alone can wreck Google, but YouTube at least felt threatened enough to make something similar called Shorts. IDK about the social network side. Google d…

Post by abxytg » Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 7:17 PM UTC

par wrote: post #84

w10-1 wrote: post #16

It's hard to overstate how bloated Apple was internally. Marketing had products for every conceivable niche. Engineering was all posturing: great hand-waving plans papered over nasty middle-management infighting. Hundreds of engineers in new glass-walled offices, producing plans. I wrote test code against a component that had been delivered months earlier only to find that it was just a stub. Even the debugger had bu…

> Engineering was all posturing: great hand-waving plans papered over nasty middle-management infighting. Hundreds of engineers in new glass-walled offices, producing plans. Sounds a lot like a lot of FAANG companies today.

Post by msoad » Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 7:23 PM UTC

abxytg wrote: post #85

par wrote: post #84

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> Engineering was all posturing: great hand-waving plans papered over nasty middle-management infighting. Hundreds of engineers in new glass-walled offices, producing plans. Sounds a lot like a lot of FAANG companies today.

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Post by giantrobot » Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 7:28 PM UTC

jansan wrote: post #82

I did not work there, but I had a copy of this iconic June 1997 issue of Wired Magazine and managed to lose it somehow: https://www.wired.com/2008/03/bz-apple-ourbad/