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Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#82

The spam is quite likely coming via Google itself. Google's mail servers have been compromised for several weeks now. It's commonly being used for infected crypto spam (all those "new traderbot" emails with the attached infected PDF, for example). I'm not yet sure if these are just compromised GMail accounts, or if the mail servers themselves have been compromised. There seem to be some reports on AbuseIPDB of intrus…

Those outbound VIPs aren’t attached to “a mail server”. If some outside party has gained the level of access you are suggesting, to just freely use these VIPs, then they have compromised the entire Google.

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#83
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

weeks? more like months. Yep, can't report them via SpamCop. I always report them via https://support.google.com/mail/contact/abuse?hl=en Not sure why they can't fix their crap.

Thank you! I somehow never came across that URL before. It's worth a try, though I'm not very optimistic it will help! I'd genuinely be interested to know from someone working at Google why Google can't / won't solve this, even for the narrow clearly-defined cases I see.

Occasionally I e-mail code@google.com I think someone somewhere actually reads it

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#84

The opposite is also happening: I'm increasingly classified as a "promotion" when I write to my friends. I wrote to my close friend Natalie and I was like "Did you see my email?" and she said "No" and went to search for it, and eventually found it in promotions. I'm now treated as marketing or as spam, for some of my friends. This has been going on for some weeks now.

By any chance, were you informing Natalie about a discount at Dick's sporting goods?

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#85
post #79

Migrated to Fastmail a few weeks ago. It's going swimmingly. The private addresses feature is brilliant. I can tell what service sold my address or leaked it, or otherwise gave it out somewhere against my consent. If Gmail allowed for private aliases it would thwart spam, but they won't implement it because they're anti-privacy.

You can always do "username+@gmail.com" for this purpose. Doesn't help with privacy but tells you which service is leaking addresses.

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#86
post #44

I get about 10 per day. They all seem to come from hacked O365/Gmail accounts. All 4 of my Gmail accounts are affected. It's all the same crap that's obviously spam. "Dear Friend, I hope this email finds you well. I need your assistance in a matter..." "You've been chosen!" "Home Depot/TruGreen/Dicks Sporting Goods/ADT-Security" "Invoice enclosed" "You've received a direct deposit..." "Hot sex " I would guess that Gm…

The "Dicks Sporting Goods" email is insane - probably hourly at the moment, from what would appear obviously bogus email senders. What is the non-obvious answer as to why these get through?

These are so absolutely ridiculous. The only (dumb) reason I can think of is that there is a large ML model which got used to seeing certain character sequences as not spam and spammers are starting to exploit it.

It's kinda shocking as Gmail spam filtering was virtually flawless for over a decade, and now it's falling apart.

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

#87
post #10

To offer a singular data point, contrary to other posters here, I am not seeing this at all, and I pretty actively use my two Gmail addresses which have been active since 2005. My spam inbox regularly gets correctly categorized spam, and important emails still correctly land in my inbox.

Same here. I haven't had Gmail let a single spam email through in years.

To the contrary, I find myself going through my spam folder to mark as NOT spam things like monthly newsletters from arts organizations. There are a bunch of concerts and plays I've sadly missed because of this. (Which I can only assume comes from people abusing the mark-as-spam button instead of properly unsubscribing, which sucks because it leads to other people missing the legitimate emails.)

Also things like invoices from Apple purchases (e.g. a paid app or AppleCare) show up in spam. Which isn't a biggie, but it does seem like bizarre that Gmail could ever get that wrong.

Re: Ask HN: What's happening with Gmail spam filtering?

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post #57
post #10

To offer a singular data point, contrary to other posters here, I am not seeing this at all, and I pretty actively use my two Gmail addresses which have been active since 2005. My spam inbox regularly gets correctly categorized spam, and important emails still correctly land in my inbox.

It is incredibly strange to hear from you (and others in this thread) who don't have a spam problem with GMail. From everyone I've talked to, it seemed endemic. From my experiences with my own account (circa 2004), GMail has moved backwards in recent years. I'd say it became a serious problem a few years ago. Marking things as spam is useless because then you immediately start getting legitimate mail marked as spam.…

Zero spam in my inbox, zero items in the spam folder (where they are deleted after 30 days).

GMail is not my primary email, though. I use it for Meetup.com, Slack, Steam, maybe one or two other things. A quick google search suggests that my email address does not appear on the internet. Maybe people not suffering from spam have similarly private addresses?

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