Ctrl+Shift+V doesn't even show up in the Shortcuts config, despite working in every program I've tried and Ctrl+V being in the list.
Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
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Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#82>It makes absolutely no sense that anyone would want to transplant styling/formatting into an email I do it all the time when I need to email a small table from excel instead of attaching the whole sheet, especially when it's backed by data that should never be sent in an email. It works fine. I used to not be able to do this. Content didn't paste nicely, or recipient clients didn't display it nicely. These days it's…
Copying a table is one thing, copying font style is another, I think.
Edit: my preference, if it's something that has to be reusable, is to do all of this sort of thing with tools that make the end result self-service & automated. But there's a lot of one-off work too, and more complex analysis usually takes place in a stats program or R or Python, and it's much easier to paste some output from there into excel and do some nice formatting quickly rather than coding it all in a way that would make it production-ready.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
>the vast majority of users want to paste with formatting Oh, I highly doubt this is the case.
I think you overestimate the majority of users' ability to make good UX decisions.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#86In many, but not all programs on windows you can paste plain text by using ctrl+shift+v. Outlook desktop is one of the few places where this hotkey does not work. Before I knew there was a native hotkey combo, I created a autohotkey script that would do that and had a mini-tutorial that showed how. https://forum.digikey.com/t/add-a-digi-key-search-hotkey-eve...
It's incredibly annoying in Outlook. Every other Microsoft product I've used like Word supports the key-combo, but of course Outlook has to be different.
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#89I get you, my emails are plain text by default, but this is a relatively straightforward answer. Microsoft has been using rich text pasting since the 90s, I think. It was definitely considered a big feature in that era.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#90It's tough because you don't want the formatting...until you. If I'm editing text that has a few bolded words I'd be immediately annoyed if the pasted text didn't have the bolded instances.
I'd then suggest that formatting that always conveys meaning (bold, italics, etc) should be copy/pasted.
On the other hand, formatting that often doesn't convey meaning (font face, foreground color, background color, shadows, etc) should not be copied by default.
A three-way option to system-wide (and per application) configure the behavior for control/command + x/c/v would be nice:
* smart copy/paste (what I just described) as the default
* copy/paste as plain text
* copy/paste with full formatting