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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by causality0 »

DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago

That is the modern business model. First you build something so good it becomes indespensible then you squeeze money out of it until your customers hate you just enough to not stop using you.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by randomluck040 »

sdoering wrote: post #63
ibluehh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion

Notion has a very nice feature set. I like to use it for my freelance side business. Currently it is sadly the best set of features within one tool for me (at least the subset I use). I would love to switch to an open source variant to self host. But till then I will probably stay with it. Still. I don't like the slowness (web and app). I don't like how it feels just off sometimes. And how the Android app just so-so…

What bugs me more than Notion not being open source is that the notes are nowhere on my device apparently but on their servers. I don’t have anything locally. If something happens to Notion or I don’t have access to the web, I’m done?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by _gy5c »

DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

https://standardnotes.com syncs well. cant speak to importing. they have an interesting privacy/encryption approach and some (all?) open source https://github.com/standardnotes

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by randomluck040 »

bsutt wrote: post #60

Being able to forward an email to create a new note has always been their killer feature for me. The majority of my tasks begin with an email. Does anybody know if any of the Evernote alternatives support this yet?

You might write your own Pipeline where you forward a mail, scrape the content and e.g. save it to a Markdown or plain text file to open it with your text editor of choice. I don’t know of any piece of software unfortunately.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by adamddev1 »

Does anyone know of a note-taker or just an Android text editor with good paragraph-by-paragraph RTL support? I really like Obsidian but the RTL support is not there, no luck w a plugin either. It's too bad RTL is so often poorly supported in these electony apps when all it takes is adding dir="auto" to the HTML tags.

Edit: I just found iA Writer. It works great!

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by kejaed »

sph wrote: post #78
mszcz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've switched to SwiftScan with automatic upload to Dropbox. It does decent-ish OCR on documents so that you more or less can select text in scanned PDFs. I rarely search inside scanned docs, most of the search is by filename which I manually set a couple of times a week. For file search VoidTools Everything is great.

Any other recommendation for an iOS scanner app that doesn't want me to subscribe to a mailing list and doesn't ask for monthly payment? Free or one time payment only.

Apples built in Notes app does pretty well these days.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by viraptor »

kmarc wrote: post #17

While I cannot comment on what changed in Evernote, eventually someone unhelpfully will ask you "WHAT? You didn't have backup?!", which is kind of a legit question. Until then, on Evernote's Tos [1] scroll down to "What Else Do I Need to Know?" and read point f) of section "YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE That". In summary, it says they are not in any way reaponsible for your data loss. Reading in-between the line…

Ok, but to be realistic, this comes from legal. Of course they will try to minimise the responsibility, regardless of technical possibilities. Even rsync.net which basically does data storage says the same under "LIMITATION OF LIABILITY" in their ToS. Unless you're ready to pay for an SLA on your enterprise contact with a company - who would ever say "we're financially / legally responsible for your lost data"? I challenge you to find a single public counter example.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by nitin-pai »

I was a paid subscriber of Evernote for several years. Then, a couple of years ago, they removed features for paid users in what they called an ‘upgrade’.

I switched to Obsidian and am very happy. Obsidian Sync and Obsidian Publish are value for money; and Obsidian+Syncthing is a great option for backing up the notes in a local machine.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by opan »

Don't trust proprietary software. Stuff like this will always be a possibility.

Syncthing + your text editor of choice (vim in termux on android is actually pretty good, imo) is a reliable bet. Emacs with org-mode could be used in a similar way. I'm sure there are other combinations as well.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by netsharc »

causality0 wrote: post #81
DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago That is the modern business model. First you build something so good it becomes indespensible then you squeeze money out of it until your customers hate you just enough to not stop using you.

I had an idea for a website: crowd-maintained list of downgrades for products, e.g. "Product: Twitter, Feature: login nag-wall when you scroll down. First Noticed: $month 2021,; Feature: killed the open API, Date: ___", etc. I still have the idea, if anyone wants to implement it, feel free.
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