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Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by stanislavb »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #18

Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out o…

I’m working on building a generic “reverse job board” for developers - “LibHunt /DEVs” https://www.libhunt.com/devs. I’d be more than happy if you give it a go.

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by giovannibonetti »

ahmed_ds wrote: post #39
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #18

Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out o…

I like this idea. I have posted on whoishiring's who wants to be hired threads and each time I got half a dozen cold emails from generic job boards startups. The entire industry needs to take a step back and evaluate their entire process. The process of evaluating a candidate is technical skills first, personality test second. If we flip the entire I wonder how effective recruiting could be. At least for entry level…

Maybe because companies that grow often delegate hiring to the HR department, which can't really filter for technical skills (only buzzwords in the resume). So, it's no wonder HR folks end up using generic personality tests to select candidates, at least in the early stages of the hiring funnel, before the engineering team gets involved.

I'm not saying personality isn't relevant for hiring, but the people conducting a hiring process can (perhaps inevitably) add bias to it, knowingly or not.

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by giantg2 »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #74
rglullis wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The people posting the jobs don't know the answers to the required questions. The questions should be answered by all the devs in the hiring team. You don't care about the compatibility between HR and employee, you care about compatibility between your peers and your direct boss. > I can't think of any "normal" person I know that looks for jobs without some negative catalyst pushing them into it. You can also solve…

I think you might be on to something. What might a B2B employer-only network look like?

A network of employers colluding on employment would look like an antitrust violation.

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by whimsicalism »

Oras wrote: post #71
BrianOnHN wrote: post #15

Google for Jobs. It's the job board killer. I've been operating niche job boards for a decade, starting with angularjobs.com (for Angular developers). Before this, the job ad aggregators (Indeed, Zip recruiter, Talent, Talroo, and LinkedIn) were probably* the best bet. IMO, Google expects a return to business websites posting their jobs on their own domain[1]. This way, they can take all the job-ad $$$, too. *99.99%…

You had downvotes? Why? Google are doing pretty good things when it comes to jobs to improve candidates' experience. Of course at the end all these features are to increase their ads revenue, but isn't that the goal for any business? Here are some quick points about Google for jobs: 1. You can view jobs from different sources at one place. 2. Google is highlighting the benefits (US Only right now). 3. Google is *clai…

at least as a dev, i find google jobs to be useless. linkedin is the only game in town

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by nameisname »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #18

Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out o…

This already exists.

https://www.plum.io/

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by randomsilence »

randomsilence wrote: post #79
hurflmurfl wrote: post #2

For people like me, who have not heard about this: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j... > Jobs and Developer Story will no longer be supported as of April 1, 2022.

What's their reason for shutting it down? The older submissions mention that they want to focus on managing company images. Why would they shut down before establishing the new income stream? What happens if it doesn't work out? Will they shut down completely in a year or two? Besides, if they are not operating at a loss, why not keep the job board running and improve it until it is the market leader? They know what…

Puneet Mulchandani's answer is there: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j...

> less than 1% of our monthly users engaged with Jobs

> Most employers found our sourcing system too restrictive or difficult to work with

> We would need to spend a lot more time & effort to address these issues

But why does it matter? It's all automated.

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by mohanmcgeek »

napolux wrote: post #27
mohanmcgeek wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they specifically state they look for people in EU timezones they'll receive anyway 100+ CVs from India or other countries. If they state EU _timezone_ and they receive applications from India which is *ahead* by 3.30H or Nigeria which is in about the same timezone, I don't see what the problem is. If they want only people from Europe, they should just say so.

Plus India is 5/5 and half hours ahead from CET

India is 5.30 from UTC.

I don't why someone in India would have difficulty starting at 11am.

It's understandable if it's the other way around: Someone in the US starting at 4am

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

jackcosgrove wrote: post #43
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #18

Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out o…

OkCupid succumbed to the swiping apps, and I think a similar thing would happen except instead of swiping based on photos you would swipe based on salary.

I wouldn't mind swiping through job matches generated by an OkCupid-like algorithm. I am guessing people would swipe based on what they care about and it is fine. For me, the salary and the mission matter equally as long as the salary is above some reasonable threshold.

Re: Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

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Post by putsjoe »

bizzleDawg wrote: post #54

As a job searcher in the UK I quite liked https://otta.com/ . Nice concise job listings from mostly great. No affiliation, I didn't end up taking a role found through them in even in the end!

For anybody curious like I was, you answer a series of questions and at the end have to sign up to see any job postings.

I didn't end up signing up but they could atleast provide a sample of the roles they have available instead of wasting the time of anybody that just wants a quick idea of what they have to offer.

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