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Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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Scott Alexander recently ran a grants program ( https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/so-you-want-to-run-a-m... ) and wrote this about the experience: > Then you have to actually give people money. > > You know how, whenever there’s a debate about cryptocurrency, some crypto fanboy gushes about how it makes sending money so much easier? And if you’re like me, you think “yes, but right now you can just enter a number…

Bank transfers are free in several countries in the UK and in Europe.

I can even get free (both personal and business) bank accounts.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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Cryptocurrency, along with mixnets, end to end encryption, the internet itself, and a scattering of other technologies together make it possible to create a (or more likely several) virtual electronic realms outside the control of existing sociopolitical power structures and unbounded by geography.

They eventually should make it possible to do this unstoppably.

Whether or not these systems, communities, and economies solve any problems for you primarily depends on two things:

1. How accepted they become by the rest of the world (they are more likely to be useful if they can become part of, and enhance, our lives - for example by cutting out exploitative middlemen from some types of transaction or providing for cheap, frictionless, ubiquitous micropayments)

2. How abusive and/or broken our meatspace societies become (you might feel differently about bitcoin, Tor and the rest in an authoritarian fascist regime with hyperinflation than you do in today’s America, for example)

In a few cases we have solved real problems that require this new digital realm to solve, but there’s certainly more to do (as is evident if you try using current iterations of the tech, or better, ask a non technical friend to!).

Some examples:

- The problem of slow innovation in finance. DeFi might be a toy that’s currently learning everything we already know but it’s doing so rapidly and already creating a few innovations on the edges

- The problem of rebellion and civil disobedience — which are important democratic acts that have shaped much of the world we live in today — in an age of ubiquitous information and financial surveillance and control

- the problem of moving US dollars (or somethings close enough for many uses) around if you, your organisation, or even your country is locked out of the US correspondent banking system, because like it or not, dollars are the world’s reserve currency at this point in time

- etc.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

#83
Speculative coins aside, stablecoins solve a problem that has been there forever - they allow you to actually own your money.

Without them the only way to keep your money not in cash is give them to 3rd party (banks/investment funds etc) which is just absurd.

And if you are not in top country, those third parties can collapse/be blocked in a blink of an eye (and they always and often do).

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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Early(ish) adopter here(circa 2013): initially it was a way for nerds who didn’t have street connections to buy drugs. Then it morphed into the biggest, most decentralized multi-level marketing speculative asset class in the history of the world. The narrative behind crypto reminds me a lot of gold bugs who rave on and on and on about how defective the existing fiat monetary system is , in hopes to push up the fiat p…

Not to forget the hard core Libertarians and Anarcho-Capitalist... I seemingly remember them being quite a big crowd involved. And ofc the get rich people, as early adopters being trillionaires when whole world adopts bitcoin. While bitcoin also being good for the poor in future...

As an AnCap, I don't think BTC itself will help the cause much (its profits might).

The government will just crack down on it eventually and the transparency of the blockchain will be used against you.

We need a political solution, not a technical one. In my ideal society I would still have private banks and I would have a currency 100% backed by real goods. There just wouldn't be a government bailing out banks when they screw up, vomiting up regulations and stealing your money every year.

That said, some of my friends went all in on BTC and got insanely rich, started buying islands in the Caribbean and places in Switzerland. Hopefully some of the crypto money will start a government-less society experiment somewhere, somehow, at some point.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

#85

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You can always find someone to sell USD for crypto in cash. And you will be able to do it only because crypto allows you to actually own your assets.

You already need crypto though.

You don’t need to buy it, you can just accept it as a fee for your work.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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>- The currency of my country is collapsing, I need to buy something which has a value unconnected to my country. >- My country imposes export controls on foreign currency. I want to move my money out of my country. Never understood who is the counter-party in these scenarios. Someone must sell you the crypto for seemingly worthless local currency. (Unless you somehow smuggle mining equipment in and buy local electri…

You can always find someone to sell USD for crypto in cash. And you will be able to do it only because crypto allows you to actually own your assets.

Question really isn't about USD or Euro. You are already quite happy if you have either.

But let's say you are in Africa and have a lot of local hyper-inflating currency. Who will give you crypto for that? Or at least more than they need for immediate needs.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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You can always find someone to sell USD for crypto in cash. And you will be able to do it only because crypto allows you to actually own your assets.

You already need crypto though.

You do.

I meant mostly that if you store your assets in crypto - it can help a lot in situations like this, presenting a great use case.

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

#88
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PayPal for b2b transactions, Transferwise and similar services for cheaper remittance transfers. Crypto takes electronic payments and adds an ungodly layer of complexity to them.

I feel like paypal is, quite in the contrary, the best example of why you do might want crypto. Background: my mother had her account and assets frozen for a crazy long time after changing her name. Turns out accounts are bound to your name only, and support is unhelpful at best, so when her business started turning profit and she wanted to change her private acc to business they locked up her funds and refused to pr…

> so when her business started turning profit and she wanted to change her private acc to business they locked up her funds

How would crypto have solved this ?

Can she do business accepting only bitcoin ?

How does crypto accounting work ?

Re: Ask HN: What real world problem does cryptocurrency solve?

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For all practical purposes crypto is just another asset class, that gets taxed on capital gains and is registered with centralised exchanges - so 1. Just doesn’t exist for pretty much all practical purposes

> so 1. Just doesn’t exist for pretty much all practical purposes Says you. You can buy crypto person to person. The transaction isn't registered on any exchange. You can mine it. Nothing gets registered anywhere. If you choose to buy cryptos on regulated exchanges (why would you ?), bear the consequences of your choices.

pretty much everyone who has got into crypto outside of early adopters has bought through an exchange. And a lot of it sits on exchanges or in centralised wallets. Unless you're a drug dealer or other criminal, or a miner, you do not have significant assets sitting in crypto that are hidden to any great effect
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