Vue on the front end, along with Quasar Framework
Python+Falcon on the back end
Postgres/Redis for data store, caching
Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
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Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#82I used to use Django for this kind of thing, but I have found that Flask connected to your fully managed database of choice like AWS with dynamodb (nosql db gets rid of even worrying about schemas) is the simplest way to quickly get up and running and do almost everything in Python with very little learning of various settings and details of specific frameworks since it is so minimal. This is how I tend to prototype…
My journey: Django -> Flask -> FastAPI
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#83I would go for Sandman, without a doubt: https://pythonhosted.org/sandman2/
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#84I would answer at the meta-level - pick the framework in the language you know best. If you are already fluent in Python, use Django. PHP; Laravel? Etc. The benefit of using the “best” CRUD tool (if there even is one) is far less than the cost of learning a new language these days. When Rails first came out, it was so much better than anything else that it was worth it to learn Ruby just to use that toolchain. Nowada…
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No, because then I would be relying on an external service from Google.
You will always rely on some external services. Either AWS for hosting or if you go the crazy root your ISP to bring internet to your own server. Relying on Google sheet and Google form seems like a reasonable safe bet. Then of course, the simple stack may not be enough, but if it is enough, I am not aware of anything simpler.
They didn't say they will rely on an some external services. But an external service from Google. Not using Google or similar can be a requirement. For example if they want to build a CRUD application manipulating personal information in Europe.
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#86I would answer at the meta-level - pick the framework in the language you know best. If you are already fluent in Python, use Django. PHP; Laravel? Etc. The benefit of using the “best” CRUD tool (if there even is one) is far less than the cost of learning a new language these days. When Rails first came out, it was so much better than anything else that it was worth it to learn Ruby just to use that toolchain. Nowada…
This is good advice. Django, for example, isn't the hottest tech on the block by far, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Where some see bloat, others see maturity. There are a lot of QoL features like the ORM, forms etc. etc. that make django a very stress-free option. Also, HN sometimes has a derisive attitude towards turbo-like variants, but still, `htmx` is an objectively good pairing with django as well. It's not quite the same as a framework that has web sockets built in, like say Phoenix+LiveView but I'm not completely sold on that anyway. IMO lingering web sockets have an associated cost that hasn't been fairly considered yet.
All that said, my personal favorite CRUD backend is absolutely servant, but will admit that haskell can be a deterrent to some.
Note since I mentioned Phoenix: It might be suitable to you OP, it doesn't necessarily need things like external static hosting, caches, task queues etc and with LiveView can accomplish plenty without surrendering the front-end to a javascript framework. Look up the emerging PETAL stack, it might be of interest. P(Phoenix) E(Elixir) T(TailwindCSS) A(AlpineJS) L(LiveView).
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#87This is what https://darklang is intended to be. I think in fairness it's not there yet (and it's also a service, so not what you want), but it's certainly fully integrated and doesn't need DBs, external SaaSes, devops, cloud expertise, etc.
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#88I'll probably be a minority here, but I'd say: java + Vaadin [1] + raw jdbc (no ORM nonsense). On Vaadin site, you can use starter [2] to create an app template. There is no need to write javascript; most Vaadin code looks like good old desktop programming. Due Java stability, that thing will run forever and will be performant. If you want to be "cloud native" (or whatever cool name now is) in the future, you can lat…
+1 for good old Java, rock solid and just works for so many large, mission critical, and high performance (!) systems.
As for vaadin - how far can u get without the pro version? None of the samples include a login, and the LoginView seems to be a PRO feature? It looks full of features.
Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#89If this isn't a business application, ignore this entire comment. If it is a business application, you probably shouldn't build a CRUD app, at least not the way that's commonly understood. Stick with me for a minute. First off, you must never delete business data (except per GDPR, retention policies, or other legal requirements). I'm sure someone will pipe in with a contrived use case where you would want to, but in…
tips hat in a grumpy voice
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Re: Ask HN: Easiest way to build a CRUD app?
#90if you’re looking for easiest the best bet are OS frameworks like Visual Studio and Xcode. you’ll get comprehensive platform support ,great tooling , great docs
go and build a simple gui app for macos and it’s a dream .