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Yeah, most of the "senior" positions I see state that they want 5 or so years experience.
There are seniors with 5 years of proper experience that will run circles around the seniors that have 15 years doing the same 1 year of experience.
Ask HN: Hiring managers, which type of engineer is hardest to find nowadays?
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#82I don't think frontend is a problem since there are so many bootcamps around nowadays...every body is claiming to be a full stack dev now...
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That's not my experience. I'm consistently told that communication is my strong point, that I'm good at interpreting statements into wanted functionality, and that my professional opinions are very thorough and well-thought out. I'm told I'm slow. When I do code screens, usually in a language that I have limited experience in due to my diverse background in technologies, I don't get the job because others are faster.
I feel you pain. And whenever I do get hired, after 6 months, I have a deeper understanding of the architecture than most of those "fast" coders. I'm a diesel. But that's not what gets you through jobinterviews nowadays.
Low RPM, loads of torque?
I'd hire that!
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#84The hardest "engineer" to find "nowadays" is the same as it was 10, 20, 40, 100 years ago: the one who can communicate what [s]he wants to do in a way that non-engineers can grok And, the flipside of that: the one who can take what [s]he is given in magic, hand-waving, bafflegab statements from non-engineers and convert it into something someone else can actually use If you can communicate to and understand from othe…
> Converting from Business people's idiot speak to actual technical spec Isn't that what a.Business Analyst does?
Not if you have any sense as an engineer :)
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Converting from Business people's idiot speak to actual technical spec Isn't that what a.Business Analyst does?
>Isn't that what a.Business Analyst does? Not if you have any sense as an engineer :)
I get a nice spec delivered to me to code. instead of translating from business people who don't even know what they want? Yes please.
Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers, which type of engineer is hardest to find nowadays?
#87Past a certain level of seniority (Principal Engineer and above), you get recruited by headhunter types. They take a lot more time and effort to figure out who you are before even reaching out. My guess is that these are the hardest ones to fill, which involve some sort of leadership in the role.
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#89Security Engineers that know how to secure applications running on a cloud platform are rare as hen's teeth. We've tried and failed to hire one for almost two years now. All the candidates are either "cloud security experts" who will run through a checklist of AWS best practices while remaining wilfully ignorant of the application itself, or on-prem dinosaurs who want to talk to us about the ports on our corporate fi…
This kind of comment baffles me. Hiring a person and training them for the role is going to be quite a lot cheaper than finding that rare professional, who's going to command a very high premium. Which means that at least one of the following things is true: 1. You're not willing to pay enough for an individual who's a perfect fit. 2. You're not willing to hire someone who's not a perfect fit and spend money to train…
I didn't claim it was anyone's "fault" - OP asked what type of engineer is hard to find, and I answered. Obviously #3 is the real truth, which is why IT security is and will continue to be a nightmare
Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers, which type of engineer is hardest to find nowadays?
#90The hardest "engineer" to find "nowadays" is the same as it was 10, 20, 40, 100 years ago: the one who can communicate what [s]he wants to do in a way that non-engineers can grok And, the flipside of that: the one who can take what [s]he is given in magic, hand-waving, bafflegab statements from non-engineers and convert it into something someone else can actually use If you can communicate to and understand from othe…
I do these technology-based art projects and it is a struggle to explain them. When it all works people see something small that they relate to, but behind that is a set of practices that aren't obvious and that often I got to by a roundabout route. Frequently I discover these practices instead of invent them and there is a big element of circularity which makes it hard to put together a story that has just the essen…
That said, you don't need to be able to give your entire life story in 17 minutes flat - but communicating is absolutely the most vital interpersonal skill there is!