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Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#81
For me, the essential point of web 3.0 apps isn't the use of blockchain as datastore but user-generated keypairs for authentication instead of a `users` table in a database: no more "sign up" buttons, just connect.

This enables composition between services more freely than oauth.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#82
post #80

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If you own the domain and self-host you can do this already.

Obviously the FBI can seize your domain, which has happened plenty of times. But also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083333 You don’t own a domain, you rent it.

You only "own" something on a blockchain so long as someone cares about that blockchain. Your keys can also be stolen or lost so your "ownership" is as tenuous as the security of your keys.

Blockchain content isn't much more permanent than content hosted on a traditional server.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#83
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you own the domain and self-host you can do this already.

Obviously the FBI can seize your domain, which has happened plenty of times. But also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17083333 You don’t own a domain, you rent it.

Is this a common problem that Web3 solves?

I understand it makes it more difficult, but they could seize your keys or your person and force you to turn over your keys.

Either way that seems like a legal issue, not a technology issue.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#84
I'm the founder of DNS.xyz, we're a fairly well-known identity platform built on web3. I've been working on IPFS apps since 2016, and talked about web3 at IPFS Camp and DWeb Camp.

It's pretty important to understand that the concept of web3 has been used by people who want to be in the cool trend of the day. As a result, it's definition has become really loose.

To me, and arguably to the people who have been working on web3 all these years, web3 is the application of decentralized technology to the web. It uses concepts such as federated platforms, blockchain, content addressing, to make the web less reliant on the major web players.

It's a mix of technologies, and an ideology that seeks to change the shape of the architecture of web apps.

In that sense, crypto is not part of web3. It is similar in terms of technology and ideals, but crypto isn't specifically a web technology.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#85

I'm the founder of DNS.xyz, we're a fairly well-known identity platform built on web3. I've been working on IPFS apps since 2016, and talked about web3 at IPFS Camp and DWeb Camp. It's pretty important to understand that the concept of web3 has been used by people who want to be in the cool trend of the day. As a result, it's definition has become really loose. To me, and arguably to the people who have been working…

I would love to talk more about it and understand your take. Is there a way I can reach out to you? I have been reading the content in web 3 and form my own opinion on the merits/demerits.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#86
post #45

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The whole design of bitcoin was to make it difficult or impossible for governments to stop it existing. If you were the head of some government how would you do that? It's open source software that can be run on pretty much any computer in the world.

I’d do it slowly by tainting certain known addresses, money laundering, tax evasion, terrorism, scams etc. It splits the world into tainted coin and untainted, all regulated exchanges will be unable to accept tainted coin. Then expand what gets tainted to include coin with unknown provenance. Also you can get tainted if you send to a tainted address so you have to be careful who you send it to. Then when the details…

Good luck with that. You sure sound smarter than the US and Chinese gov who are both desperate to ban it.

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#87
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d do it slowly by tainting certain known addresses, money laundering, tax evasion, terrorism, scams etc. It splits the world into tainted coin and untainted, all regulated exchanges will be unable to accept tainted coin. Then expand what gets tainted to include coin with unknown provenance. Also you can get tainted if you send to a tainted address so you have to be careful who you send it to. Then when the details…

Good luck with that. You sure sound smarter than the US and Chinese gov who are both desperate to ban it.

I don’t think they are desperate to ban it right away, even if they say they are. It takes a long time to sneak in new powers into international trade agreements. It also takes a long time for an exploitable crisis to occur. They don’t want to be seen as handicapping innovation and cutting ordinary people off from a way to get rich. So they’ll wait however long it takes for people to lose faith, which could be a really long time.

I personally don’t believe those with the power to decide money supply will give it up easily.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#88
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Decentralization without blockchain has existed and worked for decades.

Can you name one example of decentralized software?

RetroShare is pretty cool. Initial release was in 2006.

> Retroshare is a free and open-source peer-to-peer communication and file sharing app based on a friend-to-friend network built on GNU Privacy Guard. Optionally, peers may communicate certificates and IP addresses to and from their friends.

> RetroShare is a decentralized, private, secure, cross-platform, communication toolkit. RetroShare provides file sharing, chat, messages, forums, channels and more.

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#89
post #85

I'm the founder of DNS.xyz, we're a fairly well-known identity platform built on web3. I've been working on IPFS apps since 2016, and talked about web3 at IPFS Camp and DWeb Camp. It's pretty important to understand that the concept of web3 has been used by people who want to be in the cool trend of the day. As a result, it's definition has become really loose. To me, and arguably to the people who have been working…

I would love to talk more about it and understand your take. Is there a way I can reach out to you? I have been reading the content in web 3 and form my own opinion on the merits/demerits.

Sure, join our Discord at https://discord.gg/dnsxyz or ping me on Twitter (@DNS)

Re: Ask HN: Is Web 3.0 just crypto or something more?

#90
Here’s a good explanation from somebody on Twitter that I mostly share.

“Web3: “user-generated authority, enabled by self-certifying web protocols.” A superset of technologies that include blockchains, but are not limited to them.

Or we can just use “Self-Certifying Web Protocols” (SCWP).”

https://twitter.com/arcalinea/status/1474124531895713792?s=2...

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