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Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#81
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Are TIPS bonds accessible outside the US for non-Americans?

AFAIK, TreasuryDirect should be available to non-Americans. You'll need to get a U.S. Tax Identification Number, and figure out your tax situation though: it'll vary from country to country based on treaties with the U.S.

The account might be available to non-americans, but I-bonds aren't.

>Who may own an I bond?

>Individuals

>Yes, if you have a Social Security Number and meet any one of these three conditions:

> United States citizen, whether you live in the U.S. or abroad

> United States resident

> Civilian employee of the United States, no matter where you live

>To buy and own an electronic I bond, you must first establish a TreasuryDirect account.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds...

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#82

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My suggestions were in stablecoins. It’s dollars like notes debt and database records. Gemini is the regulated, New York based cryptocurrency exchange run by the Winklevoss twins. I just personally consider it to be the most reputable exchange, closer to Wall Street than the Wild West, so to speak.

But the ~8% on GUSD is not insured right?

Seems to be? https://www.gemini.com/legal/user-agreement#section-fdic-ins... (the FDIC section is a subsection of the gemini dollar section). That said if your crypto wallet gets hacked or the lending platform goes under, you'll still lose your money. I'd imagine the FDIC protection is only for if the bank where gemini stored its dollars went under.

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#83
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the ~8% on GUSD is not insured right?

Seems to be? https://www.gemini.com/legal/user-agreement#section-fdic-ins... (the FDIC section is a subsection of the gemini dollar section). That said if your crypto wallet gets hacked or the lending platform goes under, you'll still lose your money. I'd imagine the FDIC protection is only for if the bank where gemini stored its dollars went under.

That is insurance for deposits in Gemini, not for the lending program (which is where you get the %)

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

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I mean, it can. Not minutes, and minutes means internet speeds. Old school finance is in the order of days. Securities can collapse in minutes too I guess… Fiat currencies inflate and are worth less every year. In some places in the world, relative to the USD, which itself is an inflationary fiat currency, it could be 50%! What if you gave your life’s labor and saved it all in something a politician and banker could…

>I mean, it can. >Not minutes So… it can’t?

Yes. It can. And has. Currencies collapse all the time. We have many examples throughout history where extreme events led to values in day to day currencies fluctuate wildly. I get it. You need the dollar to pay your debts, your goods and services and your tax. This is the same as every human ever in history in their respective daily transactional token. (US) Dollars are good, and will be how people pay for things around the world in some form or another for many many years to come. However, we must not forget that it is a fiat currency, and as such value is at the whim of the politician and banker.

Regarding the wild scary world of decentralized stores or value, cryptocurrency tokens, Bitcoin. Ethereum. It is scary to see your savings fluctuate wildly. It does however grant some perspective on the system. Money is the shared delusion that some token is worth some goods or services to other humans, or systems. The systems part is where it gets interesting, down the rabbit hole. Sometimes we want to trust the math, rather than trust the man or trust the gun. The smartest people on earth seem pretty ok with the math; but they don’t always have the confidence of the man or the gun. It is a fairly new concept to apply planetary value structures to decentralized peer to peer networks.

What if, in the future, we implemented protocols that enabled the same meta patterns we see emerge in existing systems, like the global equity and capital markets, commodities and financial instruments and implemented them on permission-less systems, with no gatekeepers, no old guard to enforce arbitrary discriminatory and rules, only math. Would that not empower humanity? Could it not break down existing long lived biases and systems of oppression? Freedom through mathematics.

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#86

If you put it in an index mutual fund and ignore it for 10 years, you can possibly retire on it. Leave it in for 20 years and you can retire comfortably. In the meantime, you really only need to worry about not spending it. Even if there is a big recession, over the 20+ year time frame you’ll still be fine Isn’t it great? If you grow up extremely poor, you have to work your whole life, especially since you can’t affo…

Assuming an average APR of 6% on S&P ETFs (600000*6/100)*10 = an extra $360000 before tax. Probably not enough to retire on. 20 years is an extra $720000, let's say half goes away for tax that leaves $360000 + initial $600000 isn't even a million yet. $1m might be enough to live off on, assuming a APR of 6% ppa, so $60,000 money influx just in interest, but it depends on your standard of living. If you're used to a $…

Like I said with the comment about poor people vs people with money, different people have vastly different expected retirements

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#87
post #54

I'd buy 6000 Avax with anticipation of steady price appreciation and delegate them for about 10% annually. With your software skills you could also without undue effort run a validator instead and gain a trivial amount more but also capture the occasional airdrop.

On the other hand, avax had a negative balance bug a couple months ago that tanked the price

That's the risk you get when investing large sums into newer cryptos, one significant network problem to break trust and your investment is gone

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#88

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> it's not a lot of money from a wealth perspective, (you're on the second bottom rung of a very tall ladder) What is this referencing?

A Pareto distribution. It's a lot of cash for someone who works for a salary, but as capital that generates income it's less than a lot of franchise fees and unencumbered capital requirements. e.g. to start a Krispy Kreme donut shop, you'd need about $1.5m in cash. You can buy into smaller franchises for much less, with 2-3x leverage, you might be able to do a Starbucks. Myself included, it's important to feel a bit…

> you're on the second bottom rung of a very tall ladder

> A Pareto distribution

I'm not following. Pareto distributions don't have "rungs". Who defines the rungs of the ladder? Why is $600k the second bottom rung?

Re: Ask HN: What's the easiest way to make a living with $600k in cash?

#89

Buy a few apartments in capital cities in Europe. Live off from rent.

$600,000 doesn't get you "a few apartments in capital cities in Europe"

It does in Eastern Europe (Budapest, Belgrade, Prague, Warsaw,...)
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