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Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not saying the company name because they don't want you going there directly and applying without them getting their hefty bonus

Then they should negotiate that they get the signing bonus if they make the referral, whether or not they're involved in the rest of the process.

That would only encourage them to spam the job at everyone who has the faintest glimmer of a chance of getting the job. Which is kind of what they do now..

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I had a recruiter call me once, and as part of the conversation asked me what I was looking to make. I told him, and he replied that I’d be lucky to make 2/3 of that. I asked him if he had my resume in front of him and he said yes. I told him to delete it. I ended up working with a different recruiter and accepted an offer 20% higher than the number I gave the first one..

Haha I’ve had this happen multiple time too. They try to convince you that they’re on you side, because if you make more they make more. But really, most of them would rather you take a lower offer than risk the deal not going through at all.

Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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> Salary range, tech stack

Yeah at least for tech stack and overall description of the opening I am clear with them I won't take a call without knowing the basic job description

My time for a call is not worth without knowing if the job is not minimally a fit.

Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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Sending emails to my work address. Even if I'm considering new roles, that's a hard pass from me regardless of whether the role sounds interesting.

Agreed.

Easiest way for me to not even consider your opening (and don't worry, 99.9% of the time they're not worth it)

Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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Don't run spellchecker on their adverts, what is "kernal programming"

Give highly generic position descriptions "innovative company based in your country doing stuff"

Call you up even if you haven't posted a CV in years and ask for a CV

Not listen to you "I'm a contractor, I'm looking for contracts" - "would you consider full time" - "no" . Arrive at interview to find company looking to hire full-time because hey the word "no" means something different in recruiter speak

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Just the bullshit salesiness of it. If someone with a network wants to have a normal human conversation about interests/goals/tech and maybe find whether or not there's a good fit among their contacts, I'll make the time to have that conversation with them even if I don't necessarily expect anything to come of it.

But if the recruiter obviously can't even be bothered to read my interests I've published on my profile, they can take a long hike off a short pier.

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There’s a lot of people in here complaining about various things recruiters do. Let me give a different perspective. For the first couple of years of my career, recruiters just ignored me. It was like I simply didn’t exist. I hadn’t studied computer science and didn’t work at a well known company. Meanwhile, my coworkers with CS degrees constantly complained about having to bat away recruiters offering them crazy mon…

Stupid question, but how are they finding you now? LinkedIn?

Not stupid at all. I had a bare bones LinkedIn profile before and the same profile now. Only difference is a mention of a well known company.

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I am on the other side of this. As a hiring manager using recruiters, I am annoyed by: - lack of diversity in candidates. (not just virtue signaling. if all I see are nearly identical resumes, I assume the recruiter is just phoning it in.) - candidates “just a little out of your price range” who are 30% over the top end of my budget. - “confidentially” telling me what other offers a candidate has because then I know…

Probably annoying as a hiring manager, but one of the best ways for workers wages to rise is by using competing, “leaked” offers against each other. This is in effect how you gauge what your talents are worth in the labor market. I’m glad offers get leaked for this reason

Well, this how I could negotiate up my starting salary. I told each recruiter the competing offer, they didn't have to leak anything.

Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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I am on the other side of this. As a hiring manager using recruiters, I am annoyed by: - lack of diversity in candidates. (not just virtue signaling. if all I see are nearly identical resumes, I assume the recruiter is just phoning it in.) - candidates “just a little out of your price range” who are 30% over the top end of my budget. - “confidentially” telling me what other offers a candidate has because then I know…

> if all I see are nearly identical resumes, I assume the recruiter is just phoning it in.

Could you explain what you mean by this? I don't quite understand the language.

Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?

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God it really pisses me off when they find great people for my team. Even worse is when a recruiter finds me a well paid job that I like. I hate those jerks. Wasting everyone's time with wanting to "talk on the phone", trying to clarify details about my "skills" and "experience" or "salary expectation", ugh such pointless questions - can't they just send emails, which I can slam the "delete" key on?

Dishonest takes are always properly masked in smug tone such as this.

It's like saying "ugh, it really pisses me off when police tries to do their job and protect me." in a conversation about police brutality and overreach.

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