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Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by ireland352 »

gtf21 wrote: post #45

I looked at Fastmail and many others when I made this switch at the end of 2018. I moved my whole family's email setup from google. Fastmail is based in Australia, which is a five-eyes country so I ruled it out (sadly, as would have loved to use it). I wrote all of this up here: https://www.gtf.io/musings/moving-away-from-google-email/ Spoiler: ended up using Runbox (www.runbox.com). I disagree with them on this but…

Runbox user as well. Their support is quite responsive and helpful when needing to troubleshoot. Security is great, number of alias available for the price can't be beat. I agree the UI is terrible in the browser, even their latest "Runbox 7" is slow and sluggish.

Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by tweetle_beetle »

busterarm wrote: post #21

Migadu. https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec...

I really wish Migadu had a very basic standards compliant contacts and calendar system to make it easier to switch away from the big suppliers. I respect the absolute focus on email, but unfortunately there is no equivalent style of provider for these services. There are some providers but they're expensive.

Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by busterarm »

tweetle_beetle wrote: post #84
busterarm wrote: post #21

Migadu. https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec...

I really wish Migadu had a very basic standards compliant contacts and calendar system to make it easier to switch away from the big suppliers. I respect the absolute focus on email, but unfortunately there is no equivalent style of provider for these services. There are some providers but they're expensive.

They've offered CalDAV and CardAV since June, they just don't advertise it particularly well. Check the Thunderbird documentation.

Oh and it's in Beta.

It's just much easier for me to host that myself, as opposed to email, so I do.

Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by busterarm »

dschuler wrote: post #48
busterarm wrote: post #21

Migadu. https://drewdevault.com/2020/06/19/Mail-service-provider-rec...

I can’t recommend Migadu. I used them for a year, and I spent many hours dealing with delivery issues and somewhat frequent unannounced outages/upgrades which go unreported. Spam filtering is generally broken and ignores whitelists. They tend to respond to about 50% of support emails, the last one being rather petty when I left the service. I should have seen the yearly plan fee as a sunk cost and moved on sooner. Ho…

If you're going with a smaller email provider, you kind of have to know what you're getting.

Keep in mind that several large email providers blacklist competitors by default and _literally charge an extortion fee_ to get off the blacklist. Migadu's issue is that they refuse to pay it.

Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by tweetle_beetle »

busterarm wrote: post #85
tweetle_beetle wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish Migadu had a very basic standards compliant contacts and calendar system to make it easier to switch away from the big suppliers. I respect the absolute focus on email, but unfortunately there is no equivalent style of provider for these services. There are some providers but they're expensive.

They've offered CalDAV and CardAV since June, they just don't advertise it particularly well. Check the Thunderbird documentation. Oh and it's in Beta. It's just much easier for me to host that myself, as opposed to email, so I do.

It's been a while since I last looked, seems like it was added over the summer. Thanks for the correction - I'll be checking it out very soon.

Re: Ask HN: Best Paid Gmail Replacement?

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Post by _huayra_ »

stanski wrote: post #55

I use Zoho Mail. They're not super popular but everything has been up to my expectations. I also use their Invoice product for time tracking and invoicing.

Wow they seem to be a super deal for features (e.g. multiple domains, multiple aliases, decent storage) for I guess some folks group this into "big corp" email perhaps compared to the smaller providers, but I think if one just wants to not give google the ability to end your online life at its whim Zoho could be a good option.
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