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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever tried to live without a phone?

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How come they don't sell batteries on the train no more? I guess it's cause the iPod came out.

They sold batteries on trains? I remember there used to be a pay phones on some German trains but they were using the analogue C network, which shut down in 2000.

People sold them on the NY subway at least.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever tried to live without a phone?

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I've gone back and forth between smartphones and dumbphones a few times now. Each model and OS have a big impact on how dumb or smart a phone can be.

Smartphone Pluses: It's nice to have a camera and a flashlight in my pocket all the time. Having the internet nearby is also nice for when I need to look things up. GPS is really nice.

Smartphone Minuses: It's distracting, but you can and should customize your app preferences, notifications, etc. to your liking. The battery sucks.

Dumbphone Pluses: Not very distracting. Forces you to be thoughtful in text messages, as they are laborious to write on a numpad. Good battery life and they are mostly replaceable. Though you should buy a few replacements and store them in your fridge as battery models are dropped from manufacture.

Dumphone Minuses: Generally, not a good camera or screen to read/view from. Same with flashlight, but you can get a small one for your keychain anyways. Lack of apps and internet. Sometimes you really do want to have a stargazing app or know that one recipe. You can call 411 and ask them those questions as well, but it does cost money. No GPS. No real social media support, though you can send out updates to most social media sites, but getting back info is done through text message and that can be a hassle. Overall, you can do work-arounds, but they take time, knowhow, money, and are overall less optimal.

Overall, I have a pretty locked down smartphone right now and it works ok. I'd like to have a better battery though. I don't think I'll be going back to a dumbphone as the 'social inertia' of smartphone usage is pretty high.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever tried to live without a phone?

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>I am considering ditching my smartphone Do it. Your health will thank you almost immediately for that. >going back to an old-school phone or not owning one at all. Personally, although I love the idea of going landline-only, I think a "dumb" phone can serve one well in a certain number of circumstances, so that's what I've been using for four years now. I use a Nokia 6250 at the present moment, but I keep switching…

Thanks! I am 23 and live abroad so I always told myself I owned a smartphone to stay connected to family at home. But I just started to realize that it owns me. Plus during COVID I don't go out anyway. So why not try...

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever tried to live without a phone?

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I have a high spec phone running Sailfish OS, and I think I have the best of both worlds. With all notifications and push updates turned off it's a useful tool but no longer intrudes. I've set up periods of the day when even phone calls don't trigger audible alerts, so I can work without interruption. But when I need access to information, Slack conversations, files from our NAS or even SSH access to servers themselves, I have that anywhere in the world.

A lot of the time it stays in my bag, and gets to the end of the day with 75% charge left despite reading books on it over lunch, often watching an hour's video on it in the evening, and listening to music via bluetooth at work if I need to shut out distractions.

It's now a tool and no longer an intrusion.

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>I am considering ditching my smartphone Do it. Your health will thank you almost immediately for that. >going back to an old-school phone or not owning one at all. Personally, although I love the idea of going landline-only, I think a "dumb" phone can serve one well in a certain number of circumstances, so that's what I've been using for four years now. I use a Nokia 6250 at the present moment, but I keep switching…

Thanks! I am 23 and live abroad so I always told myself I owned a smartphone to stay connected to family at home. But I just started to realize that it owns me. Plus during COVID I don't go out anyway. So why not try...

By all means, stay connected to your family--just try and do it through other platforms. In similar circumstances to yours, I stayed in contact with my family through Ring, Tox (toxic), and XMPP. I always preferred audio and video calls over texting them, which I almost never did. Stay connected to those that care about you the most, through healthy means. No need to own a smartphone, you are right about that one, but do know that there are meaningful connections worth maintaining.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever tried to live without a phone?

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Not sure if you will still check this thread but in case you do:

I only have a voip.ms account at this point (I use linphone, that I'm not entirely happy with but seems better than the alternatives I've been able to find and is cross platform). I only connect to it when I need to make a call and get voice messages sent to my email. While it might be different depending on where you live (I'm in a large city in the US), there are a number of places that expect you to have a phone and it will be more effort to be completely without one, so I'd recommend some VOIP account if you are going for the least annoyance non-smartphone option. Some companies require the ability to send you a text message, including Google (I think, unless there is some way to get around it) and Paypal. I was able to get SMS from Google on voip.ms but not from Paypal (they say SMS from short codes usually doesn't work and it they have no idea when they might be able to make it work). Paypal still lets me use the account (and stopped the annoying messages on login after I enabled TOTP) but I can't add any new info (update cards or bank info) so it may eventually stop working. My bank also seems to require that I have a phone but I can get the text via voice (but not just a message, you need to type a number before it gives you the code), text, or authy. I should try to see if they would give me a TOTP key if I contact them. You will need some phone number to enter into a form much more often but for me I think those are the only ones where I have actually needed to use the phone.

At least in the US, old cell phones can be used for emergency calls as long as they can connect (even if they do not have active service).

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