You might enjoy this app I recently wrote: https://pitchy.ninja to assist you in your journey.
Looks nice. I did but barely hear a sound during the 'listen' segment (had tried on the phone with full volume).
Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
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Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#82Anyone having experience with Sing&See software for this?
There's also this which is useful but not great.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamao...
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been teaching coding (on the side) and doing software engineering for the past 10 years. There's a recent surge of self learners who believe in studying coding the way they believe should be studied (which is ironic, given how little experience they have). The moment they got a job, they turn around and proudly talk about "This is how I did it, you learn x, y, z and you can get a job like me" and influence the n…
I went through one of the bootcamps back in 2014. I’m now a software engineer who cares about good practices, methodology, and design. Some of us take a few years to get there first
If you change the words bootcamp for academia in the parent comments, it still mostly holds. They both are an echo chamber, which usually needs to get "unlearned" to learn the good practices in the industry, if you happen to find a job where they actually practice them.
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Paul, this absolutely breaks my heart. Anyone can learn to sing in tune. I’ve taught kids and adults who are “tone deaf” to listen and sing/play in tune in weeks to months. It isn’t a magic trick, just listening and singing and listening and singing. Like algorithms- you break it down. There is no such thing as a bad voice— the best voice is when you sound like yourself: natural. No one is born knowing how to sing. w…
So you have taught someone to change the tone/quality of the voice they were given to the point where ppl pay to hear them sing? A great To distinct singing voice like Kelly Clarkson, Norah Jones, Karen Carpenter, Louis Armstrong, Barbara Streisand, Robert Plant, Allison Kraus, Carrie Underwood, Jennifer Hudson, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion and many other popular singers is a innate or god given talent. No vocal coac…
I'm with you on "born with": Karen Carpenter, Barbara Streisand and Whitney... we will never have another of any of these ever again. But Louis Armstrong?-- a great great singer and incredible, towering musician by any measure-- doesn't have a naturally "beautiful" voice like them-- he basically plays a kind of voice trumpet using his vocal chords-- which is his personal, developed style- and it is SO compelling and multi-textured. That is practice, baby! That is being comfortable with your instrument and your own stylistic ideas and making stuff up within a style and context. Robert Plant? That is all about the gut of it- the raw impulse. The rock n roll. It's his commitment to the story and the song, but I won't at all agree that he was born with a gorgeous or even naturally interesting voice-- but he has developed a very clear artistic one-- developed-- practiced and imagined. Bob Dylan? He compels a lot of people to buy records and tickets. Tom Waits? Great singing is stylistic and conceptual artistry like Picasso or Sophie Calle. Most important thing about the singing: being comfortable with yourself and accepting who you actually are and loving the imperfections. That is so difficult, I know - it is what we all practice all the time. Once you feel comfortable- it is all about being vulnerable (being totally cool with making mistakes and being imperfect and unbeautiful) in front of many people and making them feel like you trust them with your mistakes and your imperfections and your story. That's the whole thing and the hardest part.
Incidentally, no matter how beautiful the "born with" part, some of those who are most "born with" that impossibly gorgeous tone quality have a much harder time than the rest of us with the accepting of themselves and their imperfections (few, if any in the vocal department) and being vulnerable and ok with who they are. In fact, in the case of Carpenter and Whitney- it killed them —they were unable to sustain this vulnerability.
To your question: "So you have taught someone to change the tone/quality of the voice they were given to the point where ppl pay to hear them sing?" Well, not to change it fundamentally, but to embody it and learn to enhance it and present it with skill and generosity so that others (collaborators, audience members) will be compelled/motivated/helped by its vulnerability, truth, intention and whatever it's about-- this is essentially my job as a teacher of music. Just an FYI--- music is not about who pays to hear it- that is not the mark of its power or greatness. Does it change your life? That's it! (People pay for some crazy bad stuff.)
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#85I joined a barbershop chorus on a whim 12 years ago, and it was infinitely beneficial. You can generally find a local chapter to rehearse with, everyone is helpful, and you only have to become an official member if you want to compete
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#86There are a thousand different techniques to learn how to sing and many people stick to their "tribe". If you're smart, you'll look beyond whoever teaches you first and stay open to other techniques with different approaches or opinions. Stick with what feels good for your body. If your throat hurts, stop. Now, having said all that. I have had really positive experiences with a teacher who teaches CVT (Complete Vocal…
I also highly recommend Complete Vocal Technique. It breaks down the voice in a unique way that I think particularly appeals to engineers and teaches you how to re-create any style safely by using correct vocal support, vowel choice, mouth position, etc... My vocal coach (Greg Delson) is incredible and teaches Complete Vocal Technique. He does online lessons, group lessons, etc... that are worth looking into: https:/…
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Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#87Find a teacher. Generally as a rule Classical/Lyrical/MT styles require more technique than Rock or Jazz (they require technique to not hurt themselves but the style aspect is personal and harder to teach) so I'd recommend getting a teacher who knows the former well.
Classical/Lyrical/MT (what is MT?musical theater??)styles do not require "more" technique. They require different techniques that have a long pedagogical history. The style is not harder to teach. Classical music has many styles (Renaissance, Classical, Romantic, Chanson, Bel Canto...) and they are all as teachable as popular styles. I guess this bothered me because there is this incorrect hierarchy people ascribe to classical- like it's a higher art or something. This is misleading. I'm a classical musician. If anything, the "training" makes people think they need to ask permission for everything and keeps them chained to someone else's ideas and removes a lot of their own confidence. Then, they spend the rest of their life trying to undo this damage while they try to sing show tunes with some kind of relaxation "of the street" and without constant judging of themselves. See: Dawn Upshaw's popular musical recordings or Renee Flemming's.
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I went through one of the bootcamps back in 2014. I’m now a software engineer who cares about good practices, methodology, and design. Some of us take a few years to get there first
If you change the words bootcamp for academia in the parent comments, it still mostly holds. They both are an echo chamber, which usually needs to get "unlearned" to learn the good practices in the industry, if you happen to find a job where they actually practice them.
Interesting point
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you have taught someone to change the tone/quality of the voice they were given to the point where ppl pay to hear them sing? A great To distinct singing voice like Kelly Clarkson, Norah Jones, Karen Carpenter, Louis Armstrong, Barbara Streisand, Robert Plant, Allison Kraus, Carrie Underwood, Jennifer Hudson, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion and many other popular singers is a innate or god given talent. No vocal coac…
I'm with you on "born with": Karen Carpenter, Barbara Streisand and Whitney... we will never have another of any of these ever again. But Louis Armstrong?-- a great great singer and incredible, towering musician by any measure-- doesn't have a naturally "beautiful" voice like them-- he basically plays a kind of voice trumpet using his vocal chords-- which is his personal, developed style- and it is SO compelling and…
If you have rockstar And or making living off of being a singer go dream but with reality in mind. You either have that gift that compels people to stop/drop (also pay to)and listen to you or not.
Also, Louis Armstrong has a very distinct voice and no one I've heard sings a Wonderful World better.
I pursued my dream as a kid I started to hear songs in my head I hadn't heard before. That led me to Nashville to finish college and pursue my Songwriting dream. There you have to be the best of the best and many of those don't make it as they didn't get their break. While pursuing my dream I played/performed in many guitar circles amongst 5 to 10 songwriters. People will let you know if they want to hear you again vs. the next guy or my girlfriend at the time who usually was the best in each circle we played in. That doesn't mean I don't write Or perform anymore and enjoy it..I'm always just a realistic person.
Re: Ask HN: I'd like to learn vocals, any suggestion on how I can do this?
#90I used to make MIDI maps of songs in Ableton and then record myself singing along to it. The I would use the "convert audio melody to MIDI" command and get a MIDI map of my audio recording and overlay it with what the song should be. Gives you good visual feedback to correct things that you might not have noticed ... Oh wow I'm coming up flat on that 5 every time. etc... Also, second everyone who is saying get a voic…
Hi, this is unrelated but I came across an old thread here where you mentioned you had used SportsRadar's API.
Just wanted to as you how much that cost (approximately)? If you don't mind sharing