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Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#81

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Als being homeless is a huge red flag for any job. It's a nasty spiral.

Being homeless in a rich European country with proper welfare systems screams of 'mental health issues'. Of course it will be a red flag for any job.

So does being scared of a telephone.

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#82
As people here suggest I would try finding any kind of low income job first. For what it takes.

Than when you sort things out and have stable living situation (have place to live and food to eat) you can get back to tech - start attending meetups and maybe try applying jobs via this personal contacts.

I don't know how churches work in Netherlands, in Poland you would get some help - it really depends from people. If you won't reach out for help, you won't get it.

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#83
couple of my hacker mates living in the squats works in simple manual jobs, warehouse or street cleaning. zero contract and agency but gives them around £1k a month on minimum wage, well enough to survive. Facebook is good for finding freelance jobs, join a local group and there you find posts about folks looking for someone to do something for them.

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#84
If you have an internet connection:

Either post on Craigslist or walk in to small business with the following offers:

- I will build you a website for (small sum) - I will build your facebook page for (small sum) - I will setup your Twitter account for (small sum)

On and on and on until you can generate a few hundred dollars. The world is a VASTLY different place when you have zero money versus when you have a little money. A little money is a bed or a warm shower or a new set of clothes for a job interview or a warm healthy meal or some advil for a headache.

Avoid trying to solve being homeless and not having a job and not knowing about the future and and and......focus on solving the key challenge right in front of you: lack of resources (money).

Good luck

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#85

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> Same if you were homeless. I wouldn't hire a homeless barista that will turn off customers. To be clear, I currently have a shower, mattress, access to a washing machine, etc etc. Living in squats is pretty ok, police repression aside. I don't look like... whatever you're guessing, and nobody I'm applying to knows I don't have a permanent legal residence. Hairdressing is a ridiculously qualified job in the UK, I ha…

> nobody I'm applying to knows I don't have a permanent legal residence. Er how do you get past "meldung" then. When I last had the pleasure of experiencing the dutch job market, the Vreemdelingenpolitie (lit. foreigner police) and the myriad other amptenare (term of affection for govt officals) made it impossible to not have a verified, permanent address.

So under EU law, Governments can't prevent you from seeking work even if you don't have a permanent home. This was found through the court system when the UK tried to remove people sleeping rough who were trying to find work, under their "hostile environment" policy.

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#86
I'm really sorry to hear about your situation.

Please don't give up.

An ancient proverb says, "Better is the end of a matter than its beginning." Meaning, with patience and effort things generally CAN get better.

From your messages, it is clear that you are intelligent.

So, it's just a matter of diagnosing what have been your road blocks up to this point, and keep pushing forward through it.

This article has some suggestions of what has worked for others in a homeless situation.

I hope that it helps you come up with a few ideas.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201505/hope-homeles...

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

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> There's a very complicated system Navigate that system. People with much lower IQ are relying on it, you should be able to do that too. > I'm trans, which means companies (even big ones) will not put me in a position where customers might possibly see me, Same if you were homeless. I wouldn't hire a homeless barista that will turn off customers. > I've had interviewers in the UK visibly disappointed when they saw m…

> Same if you were homeless. I wouldn't hire a homeless barista that will turn off customers. To be clear, I currently have a shower, mattress, access to a washing machine, etc etc. Living in squats is pretty ok, police repression aside. I don't look like... whatever you're guessing, and nobody I'm applying to knows I don't have a permanent legal residence. Hairdressing is a ridiculously qualified job in the UK, I ha…

> Living in squats is pretty ok

I think I misunderstood that from your original post. Do you mean you are squatting someone else property? If that's the case, I feel sorry for myself spending all this time writing these responses...

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

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You might be severely underestimating the impact that a bad living situation can have on a persons confidence, motivation, and mental energy to approach tasks. The most important thing they can do is ANYTHING that gets them into a stable living situation.

I agree with this comment. First seek stability. Then you have a base, launch position, to move upwards from at your personal mental pace, after you get your feet back under you. Most people do not function well at all under the intense stress of homelessness, it breaks you down. If they can quickly find a tech job, that's great of course; otherwise find anything that provides the necessary stability to make further…

I’ll second this. Getting any job, and keeping it, will give you a self esteem boost in addition to giving you some structure and income. Use that as a launch pad for bigger and better things.

Put another way, it’s easy to reach too high and then feel depressed or hopeless because you can’t achieve it. It’s much better to walk up the steps one at a time.

Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?

#90
You said you had connections with some hackerspaces. When I did a brief stint of homelessness I was able to lean on my local hackerspace to take showers and receive mail (a fixed address is extremely helpful when job hunting). If you go this route don't get too comfortable and start spending all your time there/sleeping there or you will attract negative attention.
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