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Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by arethuza »

dpwm wrote: post #59
arethuza wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BBC received far more complaints on coverage on the recent election from Conservative (right) supporters than any other group: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/31/bbc-election-c... The right wing in the UK is usually the group most critical of the BBC (AKA "Brussels Broadcasting Corporation"). I would agree that the coverage during the Scottish referendum in 2014 was biased but I think that this is beca…

It's worth noting that the linked article does offer selection bias as an explanation – suggesting that conservative supporters were more likely to write letters, supporters of other parties less likely to. Number of complaints seems a pretty poor measure of bias, but it is one that is often used to reinforce the idea of the BBC's impartiality.

Well, as someone who doesn't support any of the UK major national parties I'd say that the BBC was fairly good at making pretty much all of them look equally unappealing!

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by hartator »

ljw1001 wrote: post #56
kristopolous wrote: post #28

I try to avoid it. It's too much of a time sink and there's almost zero pieces of actionable information. I know it's offensive to claim it's merely entertainment but in concrete terms there's no material difference resulting from tuning into daily banter that's any different than watching some serial drama on television.

This is why we can't have nice things. Like democracy. But I also have to limit my exposure to political news. Otherwise I get too depressed.

You don’t have to follow news to make good political decisions. If people read philosophy as the same rates they follow fake political drama, we’ll be in a better place.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by dastx »

mattlondon wrote: post #32
andrepd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention the appalling coverage of Jeremy Corbyn.

What was appalling about its coverage? Any sources or evidence? From what I understand they go to great lengths to remain as impartial as possible so curious what it is in particular you are referring to?

BBC's coverage (and that of other media) of Corbyn has been overwhelmingly negative ever since he announced he is running for Labour leadership.

Having said that, I think what's more interesting is the BBC's accidental editing of his main opponent in the recent election. That is, the first time they "accidentally" aired 2016 footage, and the second time they "accidentally" edited out the audience laughing at Boris Johnson after he was asked a question.

On both occasions the BBC apologised but I'm not sure it mattered. Obviously this does highlight that since the BBC is willing to do this, how many other times have they done this that hasn't been noticed?

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by molteanu »

akuji1993 wrote: post #30
molteanu wrote: post #17

https://www.rt.com/

Love how people downvote RT but upvote BBC. Take any media outlet with a big grain of salt. Al Jazeera is also a good news source, when you are intelligent enough to question motives.

People are not quite objective around HN when it comes to political stuff. That's fine, the technical stuff is still good.

> Take any media outlet with a big grain of salt

True. That's why you can't trust a person who gets his/her info only from BBC and NYT anymore than you can trust an engineer who doesn't know Lisp.

I'm also reading The Guardian, it has some nice opinion pieces, but when Australia is on fire the news is how some tourists saved some koalas and it's all well. When the Amazon burns, that's another story.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by pjc50 »

mattlondon wrote: post #32
andrepd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention the appalling coverage of Jeremy Corbyn.

What was appalling about its coverage? Any sources or evidence? From what I understand they go to great lengths to remain as impartial as possible so curious what it is in particular you are referring to?

Mostly allowing themselves to be led around by unnamed "sources".

Laura Kuenssberg's Twitter feed was particularly bad. Reporting on advance postal votes: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/11/bbc-denies-pol...

Misreporting a punch, contradicted almost immediately by video: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/photo-...

The official BBC line is that these are "mistakes", although they all seem to err in one direction and there is no investigation or plan to reduce the mistakes in the future.

Subjecting everyone except Johnson to interview by Andrew Neil (who is also chairman of Conservative magazine The Spectator) https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/01/boris-johnson-...

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by fsloth »

Economist is very good. They are strongly liberal economics biased in their opinions, but they don't hide it. Their coverage of facts is usually excellent. It's obvious when they are opinionated and when on the other hand quoting expert opinion. I'm a bit on the left, politically, so I like reading 'what the other side is thinking' as well. As a bonus they publish bunch of letters from the readers, where they are criticized for this or that error by their readers, including state officials and university professors.

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by MperorM »

I watch CGTN,

while it's definitely pro china, I still find it to be by far the most valuable news television.

It focuses on Africa and Asia, which I otherwise hear very little about. The value of the news for me is mostly not whatever the news is, but the facts surrounding the news.

For example when they covered the election in Senegal, I learned a ton about Senegal as a result. The news about the election was not the important part in this case, it was learning about the country.

I wrote longer about CGTN here: http://mathiasbonde.com/?p=96

Re: Ask HN: What are your news sources other than HN?

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Post by kristopolous »

ljw1001 wrote: post #56
kristopolous wrote: post #28

I try to avoid it. It's too much of a time sink and there's almost zero pieces of actionable information. I know it's offensive to claim it's merely entertainment but in concrete terms there's no material difference resulting from tuning into daily banter that's any different than watching some serial drama on television.

This is why we can't have nice things. Like democracy. But I also have to limit my exposure to political news. Otherwise I get too depressed.

Democracy is achieved through active participation in building and maintaining institutions exercising power, not in passively consuming broadcasted editorial content.

It's depressing because consuming content in isolation doesn't materially affect anything. You can't watch your way to political action. It's empty and everyone knows it.

Donate money to causes you care about, attend meetings, help organize things, exercise power.

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