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Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#81

> product management, project management No, thank you. FOSS developers are usually skilled and self-motivated engineers, so corporate-style control is unnecessary or harmful. Money, quality code, bug fixes, documentation, publicity (there are so many great but little-known FOSS projects), or a simple display of appreciation for the authors' work are all welcome.

Why all the idiotic downvotes?

Thanks! For the record: I added the sentence after "No, thank you" after I got a few downvotes. And please don't call them idiotic. It might be they truly believe in the necessity of someone "managing" FOSS projects and their authors.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#82
To my mental health what contributed most is to volunteer at a NON-TECH position. YMMV

I was on a SE-Asia trip when I fell in love with a small town here; my organize trip was so bad I decided to abandon it. Found out there is a half-pruvate English school for kids.

I notified my friends, rebooked my flights and stayed for a month to teach school children English (around 100 of them in 5 classes every weekday).

This was probably the most rewarding experience in my life, although it didn't really help my professional career. However, I learned a hlot about

* cultural differences

* language differences of Asian vs Western languages

* the English language itself

* kids

* ways of living a life

* myself

Effectiveness? Questionable. I saw many of the teenagers to improve their pronounciation drastically during this month. Also helped the local management to rethink methods of teaching etc.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#83
If you believe in a higher power, look for a thriving local church.

The opportunities to volunteer will be frequent and diverse. You might try digging wells one month, then feeding the hungry the next. You can be part of "A Night to Shine" or help clean up dirty ditches. All sorts of stuff, offered frequently and vetted for quality of projects.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#84
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The economic consideration comes down to the real value of the labor, and that depends heavily on the economic benefits of specialization. A day of you doling out soup to people or picking up trash won't be worth any more than what someone who does it for a living is paid. And it will probably be substantially less because you're not practiced at it. A day of you building houses (assuming you have no training) could…

>But otherwise, if in other contexts it'd be a waste of your time, it's still a waste of your time when donating, Is it? [We] seem incapable of stating the obvious truth: that we who are well off should be willing to share more of what we have with poor people not for the poor people's sake but for our own; i.e., we should share what we have in order to become less narrow and frightened and lonely and self-centered p…

I didn't want to get into what your motivations may be, but I alluded to this: Now, if no one is picking up trash and you want it picked up, then by all means go pick it up.

The idea was that you might be doing it yourself because, in that case, your surroundings being clean and beautiful is something you desire.

> ... we should share what we have in order to become less narrow and frightened and lonely and self-centered people

Wallace's view of humanity is self-serving and awful. He's a noble savior, the poor people are helpless without their saviors, and everyone else is frightened, lonely, self-centered, etc.

A better approach is one founded in gratitude, wherein charity is merely one form of expression of gratitude.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for the other goals, the statement holds: If in other contexts it would be a waste of your time, it's still going to be a waste of your time for you to do it.

unless, of course, handing out sandwiches or making beds up in a shelter opens one’s eyes. then it’s the exact opposite of a waste.

> If that's the goal, only a small subset of volunteer work is a good way to achieve it.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#86
Consider “backdoor volunteering.” I find that specialized/technical work isn’t really available on a volunteer basis. Staff have an expectation of working with other pros and may feel threatened by undercutting. So I take some weekend work at nominal wage and donate it back anonymously. It’s not tax efficient, but it works for both of us.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#87
Consistently. My grandma does a lot of volunteer work, and one of her gripes is with students who show up to fulfill a requirement, learn just enough to start being useful, then quit.

One place I work did a volunteer day at a local community center for underprivileged kids. It was fine going and helping kids out, but I felt like shit for the kids who never get to build any sort of relationship with anyone from the rotating cast of techies who show up to assuage their guilt. These kids have enough instability in their lives.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#88
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>But otherwise, if in other contexts it'd be a waste of your time, it's still a waste of your time when donating, Is it? [We] seem incapable of stating the obvious truth: that we who are well off should be willing to share more of what we have with poor people not for the poor people's sake but for our own; i.e., we should share what we have in order to become less narrow and frightened and lonely and self-centered p…

I didn't want to get into what your motivations may be, but I alluded to this: Now, if no one is picking up trash and you want it picked up, then by all means go pick it up. The idea was that you might be doing it yourself because, in that case, your surroundings being clean and beautiful is something you desire. > ... we should share what we have in order to become less narrow and frightened and lonely and self-cent…

> Wallace's view of humanity is self-serving and awful. He's a noble savior, the poor people are helpless without their saviors, and everyone else is frightened, lonely, self-centered, etc.

Out of context i guess i could see that reading being something you could conclude. It’s not well supported overall, though.

> ... gratitude

Sure; but the notion that “do it because it’s the right thing to do, and it’s a good way to say thank you” is not at all at odds with “... and by way of ‘you’re welcome’, you’ll be less of a lonely prick!”

It’s kind of an open philosophical question whether or not a purely altruistic act is even possible (where i do X to you, X is good, and I don’t get anything in return that is also good) — why mince words about it? (cf kierkegaard, among many others). There’s no particular shame in acknowledging that charity rewards both parties.

Re: Ask HN: Best ways to volunteer?

#90
So many elderly people who have trouble with basic tasks, including but not limited to tech.

I’d like to see a hotline where people can call to ask about virus pop ups, calls from potential scammers.

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