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#81
I had been with the company for 5 years and was the most senior employee. I simply said "I'm moving but would like to continue working with you remotely." They didn't like it but weren't willing to lose me either.

I worked remotely for them for two years before they laid off the entire engineering team, me included. My next and current job was remote from the beginning. It was easy to get because by then I had proven that I could be effective remotely.

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#82
If you can show evidence that you are at least as effective remotely than in the office, that will go a long way towards convincing a manger. Start working from home on off hours. Come in late. Show them timestamps from all of your commits, that you're most effective during non-work hours. Give them hard evidence, and most reasonable people will do the reasonable thing.

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#83

The easiest way I think is to quit and work as a contractor/freelancer. You can offer your services to your ex-employer and if you actually deliver value there shouldn't be problems to have remote work as a term in the contract. Otherwise you can look out for other customers who accept remote work.

This is what I did. Next employer was a freelance client first. They make me a pretty good offer to become an employee that included continuing to work remotely.

Since then, I've done more freelance and employed work, but I've only accepted remote roles.

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#84

Does someone have best practices for remote work from the workers perspective? Example end of day email for work complete. Weekly check in for priority projects.

Communicating is probably the most important thing. I talk to my team on slack daily and on video chat about every other day.

A private office with a door you can shut is also up there. I actually lease a small office about 1.5 miles from my home. Normally a spare bedroom is sufficient, but we ran out of those in my home.

Keep a normal schedule. It doesn't have to be 9-5, but it needs to have a good amount of overlap with your team.

Have a backup computer and internet connection. (Cellphone tethering qualifies here.)

All that said, there's really no substitute for occasional face time. My company has a lot of remote staff, so we do quarterly gatherings where everyone comes to the same city to work together for a week.

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#85
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This has been my experience thus far as well. It hasn't really mattered how well I could frame productivity or measurable improvements in my quality of life to an immediate manager or team - ultimately if the senior leadership dislikes the idea of remote work, each level beneath them will hesitate to fully embrace it. I've found that companies that promote work-life balance as one of their strengths are the best plac…

Remote work goes against having the best work-life balance. When you walk out the door of the office, work should be over and done with until you return. Taking work home should be impossible. Paid overtime helps greatly. It discourages the employer from trying to get free work out of you. Having a non-zero commute doesn't have to mean commuting for 2 hours in urban traffic. You can pick a location where a tiny commu…

In an office, many engineers surely _actually_ work well under 40 hrs most weeks. If you're remote, that time is yours to spend time with pets and family, do chores, run errands, relax, exercise, etc.

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#86
If the company has multiple offices.. Work for a while from the second one and then rotate between them. Schedule meetings at each of the offices so you can justify this.

Also I find partial days remote works if your commute isn't so large. Work mornings from home and then afternoons in the office. Justify the work at home by early morning calls/meetings.

Have clear project plans with deliverables. Provide a weekly written update to your boss and other stake holders with the weekly progress.

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#87
I realized I was indispensable and just went home, never looked back. Not a single complaint was heard and this is a work place that does not officially condone remote work.

But I'm not alone in doing this, I might be relatively unique in doing it every single day though.

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#88
I worked at a small startup as the only senior back end engineer.

I bought my plane tickets to Asia for a 6 week trip and I told my boss 2 weeks before my trip that I wasn't happy living in the bay area. I loved my job, but I wanted to live anywhere else.

Rather than fire me / have me quit, he let me start working remotely keeping California time.

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#89
About one and a half years ago, I decided to move to another city, but very much wanted to continue working for my company, so I proposed to my boss that I would go remote at that point. Our company had two other engineers working remotely before me, so that definitely helped. As far as I was considered, it was mostly about making sure that my boss viewed me as someone who knows how to help myself or proactively seek help when I get stuck and make sure I am able to find new tasks to work on on my own. There was also a need for more proactive communication and more status updates. While it is pretty easy to know or find out what a coworkers status is in an office situation, it is far less obvious in a remote situation.

Re: Ask HN: How Would You or Did Convince Your Boss That You Can Work Remote?

#90
post #88

I worked at a small startup as the only senior back end engineer. I bought my plane tickets to Asia for a 6 week trip and I told my boss 2 weeks before my trip that I wasn't happy living in the bay area. I loved my job, but I wanted to live anywhere else. Rather than fire me / have me quit, he let me start working remotely keeping California time.

This is probably the easiest one, although it only works for small companies: if you're both indispensable and likeable, you can get a lot simply by asking nicely with the very distant implication that you might leave if you don't get what you want.

(Of course, someone will cite "The graveyards are full of indispensable men"..)

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