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Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

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post #78

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You surely realize that no human being can be available 24/7 within 20 minutes. It's beyond slavery to expect that from any employee. You need at least 10 sysop/sysadmin to achieve anything close to that SLA, with a sustainable rota. Contrary to the parent posters who believe it can be done with THE right guy.

We manage it with 3 sysop/sysadmins. I think you vastly overestimate how many people you need to keep a 20 minute SLA.

That’s a shitty life.

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#82
post #78

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We manage it with 3 sysop/sysadmins. I think you vastly overestimate how many people you need to keep a 20 minute SLA.

That’s a shitty life.

I find it rather insulting that you think it must be a shitty job.

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#83
post #26

Is AWS/Azure/GCE down? Remember: the cloud is someone's else computer. When it's broken, you cannot do anything

So what? I would rather have Google/Amazon employees on the issue than some random DevOps dude.

Why would you hire just one person?

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#84
post #82

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That’s a shitty life.

I find it rather insulting that you think it must be a shitty job.

Expectation of 24/7, 20 minute response to a callout is bullshit. If that’s not shitty, you’re a victim of some sort of employee Stockholm syndrome.

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#85
post #82

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I find it rather insulting that you think it must be a shitty job.

Expectation of 24/7, 20 minute response to a callout is bullshit. If that’s not shitty, you’re a victim of some sort of employee Stockholm syndrome.

Not all 3 have to respond all the time. It's a rotating schedule for having the overnight phone and the weekend phone (during weekend nights the SLA is relaxed to 1 hour).

And keep in mind, 20 minute response doesn't mean you fix the problem in 20 minutes, it means you respond in 20 minutes to the callout.

I think you're victim of an easy-going startup culture.

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#86
post #75
post #26

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So what? I would rather have Google/Amazon employees on the issue than some random DevOps dude.

The random dude is your employee and his/her mani job to get it to work and it’s first proirity. You will never be AWS/GCP/Azure first priority.

How could I be their second priority? For any one service and availability zone isn't it all or nothing (or slow).

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#87
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expectation of 24/7, 20 minute response to a callout is bullshit. If that’s not shitty, you’re a victim of some sort of employee Stockholm syndrome.

Not all 3 have to respond all the time. It's a rotating schedule for having the overnight phone and the weekend phone (during weekend nights the SLA is relaxed to 1 hour). And keep in mind, 20 minute response doesn't mean you fix the problem in 20 minutes, it means you respond in 20 minutes to the callout. I think you're victim of an easy-going startup culture.

I misread it.

I’ve been oncall for escalations for like 15 years. That’s miserable enough, IMO frontline guys need fixed schedules and rotation if the volume is high.

I definitely cast my perspective on this and apologize if I came on too strong,

Re: Ask HN: Plenty of large sites down; Reddit.com, GNU.org, Discord, coincidence?

#88
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all 3 have to respond all the time. It's a rotating schedule for having the overnight phone and the weekend phone (during weekend nights the SLA is relaxed to 1 hour). And keep in mind, 20 minute response doesn't mean you fix the problem in 20 minutes, it means you respond in 20 minutes to the callout. I think you're victim of an easy-going startup culture.

I misread it. I’ve been oncall for escalations for like 15 years. That’s miserable enough, IMO frontline guys need fixed schedules and rotation if the volume is high. I definitely cast my perspective on this and apologize if I came on too strong,

Sorry to say, you're right and he has Stockholm syndrome. It's a very aggressive schedule, must be missing holidays half of the time to keep the phone.
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