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#82

Not that 25yo me would listen to any advice (I'm 45 now and I still won't listen to any advice), but my advice would be: forget about your career goals. Move to an island and be a bartender/scuba instructor/tour guide/beach bum. Get tan, get laid, and enjoy your 20s. Or 30s. Or the rest of your life. Or you can burn yourself out in thankless failed startups, soul-sucking corporate offices, and an endless stream of hi…

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Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#83
At 25 I got the first job I was good enough enough to have a real positive impact in my company. I'd been programming video games since I was 7, then got my first professional job at 16. Building business software in the late 90s exposed me to a bewildering sea of horrible technologies, overcomplicated architecture and process, and a lot of people much older than me pretending they knew what they were doing--and I didn't know any better at the time. The software world at that time was beige, mean, boring, and way, way too complicated. Moats at this time consisted of massive proprietary projects with vendor lock-in the main objective. The magic of the tight knit 80s hacker scene the had enchanted me as a child had faded and the excitement of the post dot-com bust was still to come.

But the dot com bubble burst and just a few shitty years later I turned 25 just as a new era was starting, there was so, so much I had still to learn, but now I had 18 years under my belt and secured a senior position at an energy company a few days after my 25th birthday. I wrote an important control system, the first program I'm still somewhat proud of/not completely embarrassed by over the next few months, today the oldest software I have written still in production now, 11 years later. It was the start of a beautiful age of software development, of increasing simplicity, openness, and kindness, and the world we developers live in has bloomed with color and been framed in elegant design. The logos of the companies we work for, our offices, our computers, our IDEs and our code are a delight for the senses. Code has bled into popular culture, and the social stigma that being a programmer once carried has been replaced by a certain amount of respect. It is an amazing time right now to be a programmer, and at 25 you missed a lot of misery.

Having said that if I could go back I'd say to myself, enjoy yourself more. Figure out where you want to live and move there as fast, put down roots, make good friends. Friends get very difficult to make past your 20s. Don't waste your time on people/projects/technology/companies/features that aren't worth it. The greatest asset you have is time, it is easy when you have so much to squander it. Get really good at your core skills. A job you are really good at and people respect you for is 1000% more fun than the same job you suck at.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#84

Not that 25yo me would listen to any advice (I'm 45 now and I still won't listen to any advice), but my advice would be: forget about your career goals. Move to an island and be a bartender/scuba instructor/tour guide/beach bum. Get tan, get laid, and enjoy your 20s. Or 30s. Or the rest of your life. Or you can burn yourself out in thankless failed startups, soul-sucking corporate offices, and an endless stream of hi…

Would you tell me a bit more about how exactly you alternate?

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#85
25... that was 8 years ago.

I was studying computer science, working at a small software company.

I had an open relationship with my girlfriend of that time, but she didn't like it.

What would I tell myself?

Don't start relationships with people who don't approve of your lifestyle. I only do polyamory now and stopped dating monogamous women entirely 5 years ago.

Also, don't let people who don't really know you tell you what you can and can't do. I had a bunch of such nay-sayers at work/university.

Do your own thing, but try to become good at it. People have houses and children? Who cares! Define your markers of success, but don't use them to hide from work. You won't be happy if you live under a bridge just so you can tell people "getting rich isn't my thing", you will onl be happy if you really believe in your life choices

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#86
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Currently 25. Not really sure where I'm going or even what I'm doing (remote dev job, currently), but I think one thing I'm starting to learn and appreciate is that personal meaning and fulfillment matters a lot more than money or even "career". (Though I also appreciate that a majority of people can't flexibly make such a choice and need to provide for their families.) Also that I shouldn't hesitate leaving jobs I'm…

What do you do for fulfillment? I'm 25 too and the only fulfillment I experience is from thinking about/eating good food which is just sad. I've forced myself into reading a lot of books and doing a lot of hobby programming but it feels empty.

books and typing never did fulfill me in that way, making programs and books were among the endless things that rived me, it was going out there, running, hiking, learning things that i thought i never would learn about, talking with people, living, making memories, staying outside beyond the screen to let the sunset walk into your eyes, to stay outside of the house, to scream, to love, to forget, to live.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#87

Not that 25yo me would listen to any advice (I'm 45 now and I still won't listen to any advice), but my advice would be: forget about your career goals. Move to an island and be a bartender/scuba instructor/tour guide/beach bum. Get tan, get laid, and enjoy your 20s. Or 30s. Or the rest of your life. Or you can burn yourself out in thankless failed startups, soul-sucking corporate offices, and an endless stream of hi…

Would you tell me a bit more about how exactly you alternate?

Try something, get exhausted, take some time off, then get involved in something else.

Rinse and repeat until dead.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#88

25 and a half now: Working on my CPA certification - 1 more test to go! Proposing to my girlfriend of 7 years next month. Quit my public accounting job in March to do a bootcamp - finish up in a month or so. Complacency is what I felt in my job. I just got promoted in December and was on a pretty easy path to senior, when I realized that I was unfulfilled professionally and that was leading me to waste my personal ti…

>> Proposing to my girlfriend of 7 years next month. Advice from an older person here - don't wait until you are 30+ to start trying, if you want to have kids. You will all benefit from having more health and energy when under 30.

As a 46yo with kids 7 & 3. I endorse this point of view. :)

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#89
At 25 I just moved sideways from doing embedded software development to web application development prior to the dotcom boom.

That led to solid IT skills and a very interesting career. I don't think I'd change anything.

Biggest piece of advice would be to save half of what you earn. (or try and live off half of what you earn) At 25 I'd just become debt-free, but it took me a while to figure out how to reduce my tendency to spend whatever I earned.

If you could do that, then at 40, your expenses are covered by what you earn in investments. That frees you immensely.

Oh, and take time out to enjoy it all. That's key.

Re: Ask HN: What were/are you doing at age 25? What would you change?

#90
What I would tell my 25 year old self (just turned 35)

1. Hire a good personal trainer and go consistently.

2. Your thinking should always be in decades, not years: Investing, relationships, career, etc. Patience is something most 25 year old lack, esp in our modern world. Its now a skill you have to learn.

3. Travel WITH YOUR FRIENDS while everyone's free time is vast.

4. Open and max out your Roth IRA

5. Make sure to acquire a new skill each year: playing an instrument, learning web design, coding, cooking, video editing, scuba diving, painting, flying drones, etc.

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