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Re: Ask HN: How do billionaires deal with their anxiety?

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Post by skinnymuch »

loeg wrote: post #63
skinnymuch wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s issues with benzos like the one you mentioned. Besides what the other commenter said about withdrawal and other issues, your tolerance will build very quickly with benzos. You can’t just take them daily and have the same or even remotely close to the same effect.

I certainly did not mean to suggest that they were some magic bullet, or that anyone should take them daily for extended periods of time. Your doctor should work with you to determine the correct dose and duration. Or if you self-medicate, you should thoroughly research anything you're thinking about taking before doing so. Benzos can be taken daily for something like a month.[0] [0]: https://www.jpshealthnet.org/sit…

That’s just not true, taking it for a month daily will not work. I haven’t looked at studies recently but the few psychiatrists I know, none believe you can take a bento for a month daily with it still being effective. Same with people taking it. Placebo can be a powerful thing.

Re: Ask HN: How do billionaires deal with their anxiety?

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Post by loeg »

skinnymuch wrote: post #81
loeg wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I certainly did not mean to suggest that they were some magic bullet, or that anyone should take them daily for extended periods of time. Your doctor should work with you to determine the correct dose and duration. Or if you self-medicate, you should thoroughly research anything you're thinking about taking before doing so. Benzos can be taken daily for something like a month.[0] [0]: https://www.jpshealthnet.org/sit…

That’s just not true, taking it for a month daily will not work. I haven’t looked at studies recently but the few psychiatrists I know, none believe you can take a bento for a month daily with it still being effective. Same with people taking it. Placebo can be a powerful thing.

That contention does not match my understanding, but I would love to read more if you have some published studies to point to.

Taking the claim at face value: if the effect at one month is entirely placebo, isn't that still useful for treatment?

(You're not trying to claim that the entire effect on day 1 is placebo, right? I think that's pretty clearly false.)

Re: Ask HN: How do billionaires deal with their anxiety?

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Post by ishikawa »

The question makes sense as we as humans will always be worried about something. If you don't have anything to worry, you will complain about the weather. Billionaires somehow found a way to waste their time worrying about really big problems. Their level of anxiety at first will be the same, but applied to bigger things. Others might take it as a game. It all depends of course. Some people get more anxious about facts, problems. Others about dealing with other people.

Re: Ask HN: How do billionaires deal with their anxiety?

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Post by jimothywales »

loeg wrote: post #62
jimothywales wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said this in at least 2 different places in this thread, but I hope you understand that 1) all drugs do not have the same effects on different patients and 2) Clonazepam is in the class of drugs known as benzodiapines, which are considered some of the most dangerous and addicting drugs given to patients. In fact, bad withdrawals from benzodiapines often result in worsened anxiety symptoms and at times hallucinati…

> You said this in at least 2 different places in this thread Only one, as far as I know. Not sure where this other phantom comment is supposed to be. > Clonazepam is in the class of drugs known as benzodiapines I'm not sure why you picked that one in particular; Alprazolam is as well (and is perhaps the more well-known one). I'm sure you know this, but to clarify for other readers, most benzodiazepines (including th…

So I think hacker news either did some magic (?) to have it show up in two places at once or someone copied your comment word-for-word. Anyway:

> I'm not sure why you picked that one in particular

No particular reason. They use the same general mechanisms so I lazily chose to only include one.

> Wikipedia mostly disagrees with that claim.

I don't know what to believe on Wikipedia articles about drugs because of the high prevalence of biased medical research. All I know is 1) anecdotally I've experienced benzo withdrawal - it's not pretty and 2) statistically speaking, benzo withdrawal is a common enough phenomenon that much care goes into warning patients of the dangers of benzos and the appropriate usage approaches.

Anyway not tryna persecute you, I just saw this text twice in the thread and felt like it appeared dilletante in addressing benzo usage. Didn't want self-medicating types (like many people on hnews) to screw themselves up.

Re: Ask HN: How do billionaires deal with their anxiety?

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Post by rajacombinator »

farone wrote: post #48
undefined1 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, though one can imagine that being a billionaire also introduces some problems. For one thing it changes family and friend dynamics and that's really a key source of happiness.

Not disagreeing at all, but "being a billionaire" is a poor articulation of the culprit. The havoc capitalism plays on social relationships has been documented, researched for centuries. This is the very core of Marxist thought, and to my knowledge has never been contested. Since you're probably an American and I just referenced Karl Marx, let's please remember Karl Marx was in fact insistent on the importance of dem…

Karl Marx died decades before the Soviet Union was formed. Where do you people come up with this stuff?

-t. Someone who has actually read Marx’s drivel.

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