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Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by sn9 »

Unbeliever69 wrote: post #72
ozanonay wrote: post #42

Hi! I'm one of the instructors at Bradfield: https://bradfieldcs.com . We teach computer science to strong programmers, typically those who were self taught, attended bootcamps or weren't quite satisfied with their conventional CS experience. We teach in small classes, strictly in person in SF. I know this sucks for folk (like OP) who are outside SF, but honestly you can't teach this stuff to a high enough standard r…

I highly recommend teachyourselfcs.com. It is by far the best self-taught cs resource online!

It's probably one of the only useful lists for CS autodidacts looking for resources to build a foundation of (practical programming-oriented) CS knowledge comparable to any decent CS undergrad program.

The suggestions are of high quality and can be worked through by spending a reasonable amount of one's free time.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by sbov »

xxSparkleSxx wrote: post #44
crispyambulance wrote: post #24

Advanced folks will have very specific needs that are hard to meet for any course with a pre-determined curriculum. Perhaps a better approach would be to hire an expert from a consultancy, negotiate a detailed custom curriculum together and go from there? It would certainly be expensive but perhaps within reach for a small group or for heavily motivated individuals?

I have had the same thought about college-courses. Why have 100+ people paying 2k+ for a course being taught by a grad student. If you could cut out the middlemen (schools), we could probably get better "professors" (i.e. one of the best people in the field - im sure people in industry would love to pick up an extra 10-20k to teach 1 class a year) for cheaper and in smaller class room settings. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

That's what you get for going to a research school: grad students teaching classes. I went to a non research school (a CSU) back in the early 2000s, and all classes were taught by real professors, but it isn't as prestigious as a Stanford or Berkeley. Beyond that, the teachers for night classes were all from industry. I took a graphics class taught by someone who previously worked on OpenGL at SGI, a database class taught by someone who was at the time working on DB2 at IBM, and a j2ee class taught by someone who at the time was working at Sun Microsystems.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by spudsfurious »

Profuse apologies in that this is not a so-called boot camp type avenue, but if you're really interested in some computer science concepts, UMass Dartmouth offers a computer science certificate.

http://www.umassd.edu/extension/programs/computerscienceonli...

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by spudsfurious »

spudsfurious wrote: post #83

Profuse apologies in that this is not a so-called boot camp type avenue, but if you're really interested in some computer science concepts, UMass Dartmouth offers a computer science certificate. http://www.umassd.edu/extension/programs/computerscienceonli...

And.. what I forgot to add was that you really don't need to take the certificate. Look at a few of the 'foundation' courses they offer online for people without a CS undergrad, most notably:

CIS 322 Data Structures and Fundamental Algorithms CIS 323 Fundamentals of Computer Systems

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by Retric »

seangrogg wrote: post #56
kevmo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it makes sense to not accept brand-new bootcamp grads. That subset of people should already be able to at least get on a junior web or QA engineer position and will be better served by actually getting out there and doing it. Going straight into one of these programs would be the equivalent of getting a Master's just because you don't know what to do after getting your Bachelor's.

> Going straight into one of these programs would be the equivalent of getting a Master's just because you don't know what to do after getting your Bachelor's. In all fairness, isn't this exactly the situation for most of the people pursuing their Master's?

Most CS students should get at least an internship before grad school. If nothing else there is a summer between your CS degree and the start of a masters program. 'Bootcamps' are very short term and don't really allow for that kind training.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by skylark »

peacemaker wrote: post #71
soham wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For that level of experience, and a great interview performance, big-5 easily cross $225k/yr in total comp. Often much more.

$225k?? For 5 years experience? Not a chance. You might get somewhere around $100k though which is still a very nice salary in most places. Up to $150k in major hubs.

225k total comp (salary + bonus + equity) for Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Apple sounds about right. I've personally gotten offers from those companies only slightly less than that with only 2 years of experience under my belt.

If you're curious, hop onto Glassdoor. It's really accurate for the tech giants because of how many datapoints have been submitted.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by shalperin »

I'm surprised that Coursera and Udacity don't figure higher in the responses. There are a tonne of advanced algorithms, machine learning, data science, and domain specific stuff on there like computational biology and computational neuroscience.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by bogomipz »

cusack wrote: post #64
bogomipz wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"I took a 10wk leave from work to go full-time through Bradfield and would recommend it to anyone that's spent time working as an engineer and is interested in leveling up generally or refining a specific skill set." Can you elaborate on the "full-time" part. In looking at the site it looks like the independent course modules are each 4 weeks with two 3 hour sessions a week for $1800 each. Were you somehow able to t…

Yeah i did it last November when the courses were structured to be done as a full-time program. They've restructured to make it compatible with having a full-time job simultaneously. I think they've still had students take all courses concurrently though, even with the new model. Worth sending @oz a note!

Was there any type of discount for taking multiple classes? I looked on the site and didn't see any mention but at $1800 each module it sounds very pricey to take them simultaneously.

Re: Ask HN: Any “bootcamps” or courses for intermediate/advanced people?

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Post by OJFord »

soham wrote: post #62
Retric wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a suggestion for possible improvements... Looking at the sight I really just wanted two questions answered. How much time? How much money? The first took a while to find: Two 4 to 6-hour sessions per week, for 8 weeks. 200+ hours of work. The second looks sketchy: Tuition: Not cheap

Thanks! Will consider. With that comment on pricing, we just want to deter people who think this can be done cheaply.

Isn't it possible that someone considers whatever your price is to be 'cheap'? Why not just list the price, and deter whoever's deterred?
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