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Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#82
I have three kids under 5 years, and I've been more productive than ever. Mostly due to the fact that my wife and I aren't spending time socialising after hours or on the weekend.

Once the kids are in bed, there's not much to do on a Friday or Saturday night. As a result, in the last 5 years I've built and launched several small side-projects.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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I'm a founder looking for ways to make my next startup family-friendly. I'm a parent of two sons in SF so I know what it's like. A grab bag of ideas so far: - Allow parents to bring babies to work (0-6mo) - Locate in suburbs where parents live instead of in the city - Hire remote employees who work from home - Establish a culture of taking an office break around 4-5pm then resume at 8pm for a couple hours - Do social…

The big win is "suburb", but also consider smaller cities. Suburbs can be OK for city dwellers who have cars, which isn't all of them. The daily commute runs backwards of the norm, so traffic is reduced for them. Smaller cities are really affordable. You can pay people less and they still get bigger houses.

Keeping work tasks at the workplace is important. There is an extra benefit for you: security. The best practice is to store proprietary stuff on a network that isn't connected to the Internet at all. Instead of suspending email delivery, just deliver it exclusively to devices at the office.

Babies at work is important if you hope to keep mothers. Nursing works best when there is no delay. The problem with special rooms for nursing is that they create the expectation that they will be used, but nursing is far easier if people are comfortable nursing wherever they happen to be at the moment.

If you can do flex-time, do it. (depends on nature of business) I'm at a place where some people come in randomly, some come in before the Sun is up, and others come in in the late afternoon. Missing a day entirely isn't a big deal; you just make it up. (we do timecards) I'm sure this helps non-parents too: some people want to take college classes, some people want to go surfing, etc.

Timecards may be helpful. Without them, people may feel pressured to work unreasonable hours.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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post #51

I'm a founder looking for ways to make my next startup family-friendly. I'm a parent of two sons in SF so I know what it's like. A grab bag of ideas so far: - Allow parents to bring babies to work (0-6mo) - Locate in suburbs where parents live instead of in the city - Hire remote employees who work from home - Establish a culture of taking an office break around 4-5pm then resume at 8pm for a couple hours - Do social…

Living in the city means no commute which means lots more quality time mornings and evenings

If you mean San Francisco, that isn't really an option with a family. There exist 4-bedroom houses with yards (little tiny yards) in San Francisco, but even the old 1960s ones go for about $1,800,000.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

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post #51

I'm a founder looking for ways to make my next startup family-friendly. I'm a parent of two sons in SF so I know what it's like. A grab bag of ideas so far: - Allow parents to bring babies to work (0-6mo) - Locate in suburbs where parents live instead of in the city - Hire remote employees who work from home - Establish a culture of taking an office break around 4-5pm then resume at 8pm for a couple hours - Do social…

"bring babies to work" - are you serious? do you have children?

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#86

I'm like you - full time job, wife (who also works full time), 2 kids under age of 6. I too am tired some nights but some things have changed (for the better): 1. Changed jobs to a balanced work/life job. 2. No longer a developer, but still in IT. 3. 12 minute walking commute (no buses, cars, or bikes) 4. Moved downtown - smaller house than most people, but as noted in #3, walking commute to pretty much everything. 5…

It is possible to find a closer job, but I kinda like it here where I am. I have an awesome team mates. I was thinking about remote job, but this is another story, because the lack of personal contact changes you I guess. While I love my wife and my two kids (son - 2 years old, daughter - 5 months) I guess it is healthy to change environment from time to time.

If you like your job, then see if you can work from home just 1 day a week. Start small.

I'm actually the "boss" where I work and I allow one of my employees to work wed and thurs from home.

So long as they do good work, I could care less where they are. So perhaps try telling your boss that you have thought of all the details like meetings, picking a quiet day when its not busy, or telling them that you will guarantee you will be reachable at all times. Sometimes managers that are old school need to be sold on how you will manage their worst fear - doing nothing at home.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#87
Not much time, eh? ;-)

Well, I see one obvious thing to cut without sacrificing your work or children, and that is the commute. Get yourself a gig that you can walk/bike in a short amount of time. Choose it well and you'll get exercise too.

Now, I know what you're thinking right now, I can't! Because of X, Y, and Z. Sure, understood in the short term. But, ask yourself where you want to be in a year or two?

If you start looking now, you can find a closer or remote job, or move home to be near a great job---over the medium term. Want to know how I know? Because, I've been doing it for twenty years. So when people say, "oh, I couldn't possibly" BS is called quickly. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#88
Sorry for asking the pessimistic question, by no means do i intend to be a troll, but don't you think that it is irresponsible bringing children in to a world where you can't even take the free evenings after working 8+ hours and giving your best? (because you need to "stay competitive or something"). The developer culture of living to work (instead of the other way around) and being totally cool about it is something that still surprises me. I understand that you like coding (me too), but not having time to do anything else (not even raise a kid, watching a movie, reading a book or just resting) appears to you as something completely normal. I simply don't get that ideology (i mean, is like a type of slavery where the slave's hobby is precisely and just what he/she does for work). I say it as someone studying computer engineering.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#89

My partner and I pretend we're divorced. We noticed before we had our first that our friends who were divorced with kids actually got out once in a while, because they shared custody. So we have what amounts to an oncall schedule - certain days I'm 100% in charge of kiddo, certain days he is. There's some exceptions for commute stuff - daycare is closer to my work- but this means you sleep in on your weekend day off,…

I've looked longingly at divorced folks myself, with every other week off.

Re: Ask HN: Did your life as a parent affected your life as a developer?

#90
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Try to get rid of the commute. That's two wasted hours every day. I have a similar 1hour commute but I only need to be in the office 1 day a week. On the other 4 days I get up at the same time (5:30-6:00am) and I work on my side projects until 8am when I bring my daughter to school and my home-work day starts.

> Try to get rid of the commute. That's two wasted hours every day. I'm not OP, but I have a ~45 minute commute in New York city on the subway. It's one of the places where I can actually relax, read a book, listen to a podcast, and nobody needs me for anything . (I'd loathe it if I had to drive, though.)

Cool, so your time isn't wasted, it is "me" time.

The original poster is not so lucky.

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