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Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

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Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

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You are mistaken, because you do not take into account the whole contributions that are deducted between gross and super-gross. Medical care is just one of them and it adds up to WAY more than 8%. Here is a break down of what that would look like for a French employee: (1) Starting with a super gross of 130k EUR / year ($145k): - Deduct retirement contribution - Deduct health care contribution - Deduct family contrib…

The same thing is true of the United States as well. The $150k salary is going to be after: 1) Retirement contribution 2) Medicare/health insurance contribution 3) Unemployment insurance contribution At the $150k salary level, the following will also be provided as benefits before the $150k: 4) Short and long term disability insurance 5) Family leave A gross salary of $150k is going to be more like $175k including th…

> A gross salary of $150k is going to be more like $175k including those taxes and costs.

So, I checked and indeed there is a small fraction of gross/super-gross difference in US salaries. But that should just be 6% total medical/medicare. Far from the 45% you often find in Europe.

> if you max out your 401k contribution

I don't think accounting for employee/employer triggered retirement contributions should enter the comparison here... Because it exists in pretty much every country, and it depends on what the employee wants to spend.

> If you do that, your retirement benefits will be much more than you would receive in France.

France has exactly the same as US 401k, since 1970, it's called a PEE. It's tax free and company contribution can go up to 3:1, it's limited to 25% of your total income though. There's also the more recent PERCO which is pretty much the same thing but can be cumulated, so you can go over 25% if you want.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

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> Also, please, bear in mind that you cannot directly compare US and EU salaries. Your 80k€ gross in e.g. France should be the equivalent of $150k for a US worker; if you account for the same level of medical care and retirement savings. Not much of a difference after you realise this. What makes you think that? As to retirement savings, American retirement payments replace 70% of working income on average, versus 60…

I totally agree. Having lived through both systems and countries with similar salaries than the one you mention. France is a scam. Europe is a scam. Companie are not entitled to anything they make you either enter some traditional companies with very little benefits (definitly no 401k, discounted movie tickets at best) or they make you enter startup world giving you shitting fictional "stocks" that definitely won't m…

It's curious that you say that, I searched for comparisons between New York and Paris[0],[1] and NY comes on top. Are this inaccurate? I'm genuinely curious

[0]:https://www.expatica.com/fr/housing/buying/buying-property-i... [1]:https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/paris/n...

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#793

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Women find men with more money to be more attractive. It isn't the only factor, but it is a significant factor like for example height. > "A man can move himself two points higher on the attractiveness scale we used if his salary increases by a factor of 10," study author John Speakman told The Times. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/01/women-are-more-...

I found my wife when I was unemployed. I wouldn't have it any other way. As a result, I remind myself to never forget it, and be extra good as a husband. Relationships are hard enough, if you're using your income (I had none, was on unemployment), or inheritance (I have none) as a carrot, you're in for a rude awakening someday. Apologies to Red Green, but while I'm not wealthy, I'm just a run of the mill software dev…

It's not always the money you're currently making that matters. The potential to make money is also subconsciously considered in dating.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

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We pay $100 per month for daycare which is open 6:30 to 18:30 if we need it for that long. School costs us nothing out of pocket. Our grand total out of pocket medical costs for our kid thus far (turns 4 in March) is around $500. Including any medication we've ever bought for him. Half of that $500 went to spending Monday through Friday at the hospital when he was born, in a hotel style room with three meals a day in…

yeah surely your family has good dental for paying only 500$ medical costs.

I didn't say dental, or "family". I said we paid $500 for our son's medical costs, not for the whole family.

His dental is completely free until he turns 23. Same as for anyone living in Sweden.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#795

Hi there, I did the exact same thing as you (at Google Sydney), before eventually deciding that I must strike out into the wilderness. In the few years since I left; I worked as a solutions architect managing a team, a team lead, a remote dev, and now in a startup. Front-end, back-end, flip-side, all the ends. So I've been deliberately trying different angles of my career to see what suits. I'd describe this process…

"If you stay at Google, make the most of it by progressing deliberately in your social life. If I'd've stayed, I could have comfortably raised some kids with my wife by now - but that's still on the todo list." THIS all the way. When we are young, we think that we will be remembered by the company that we worked for and the people that we worked with. The sad truth is that in 99.9999% none of those people will rememb…

My heart goes out to you. Please email me (elwell dot christopher at gmail dot com) to chat.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#796

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Of all the women I know, not one of them aspires to be "a millionaire's wife".

Funny coincidence, I never met such a woman either! I did meet plenty who just happened to only date men who make high six to seven figures. It was a serial coincidence!

Me too! Unfortunately none of them ever married those men and most of them remain pretty unhappy with their dating lives. Another serial coincidence!

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#798

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>I've become a professional slacker who knows all these psychological tricks, knows what body language to use to make the desired impression, what to say and what not to say. My managers think I'm a high performer who also makes valuable social contributions to our team and this is reflected in pay rises. i.e. the Gervais principle [0] [0] https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...

Real question - is this possible to do as a woman? I often feel like the games of the office, especially the engineering office, are much more naturally suited (and familiar to) men. I've known people who seem to coast to leadership positions (showing no aptitude, and often, even interest in them!), people who are automatically first pick whenever a promotion becomes available almost from the moment they walk in the…

I kinda stumbled onto a viable "build" for this game by being a socially awkward neckbeard, but female. No makeup, conference t-shirts with jeans and hikers, video games and 4chan for water cooler talk topics. I get automatically considered more competent than I actually am.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#799

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I personally moved to locations that don't have 50%+ more single men than women. That seemed to have made me a lot more, uhm, "interesting".

Any pointers to a list of those locations?

New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Nashville, Austin, Dallas and many more.

Re: Ask HN: I've been slacking off at Google for 6 years. How can I stop this?

#800
You are lucky that you can identify what is wrong with you.

My only suggestion would be: Pick 2-3 technologies you have been using most and which are popular (in terms of finding jobs) and really spend time mastering them. Otherwise, good luck finding a more senior job.

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