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I have trouble seeing a worse economy for a few months vs a highly optimistic 100,000+ dead having similar numbers of lost lives.
It's not just a few months though; a 0.2% recession (say) quite possibly translates to everyone in the future being 0.2% worse off, forever.
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>We don't have enough masks in Europe, and those few are needed for professionals. That is the only valid argument I could possibly understand. Although I would argue we could have ramp up production line. And Medicals get priority with Mask. >I think it is not productive to fundamentally questions their advice. I dont know, but Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, ( We exclude China for comparison ) 200M+ Populati…
It's not only this reason. Even N95 masks are rated only to .3 micron. COVID-19 is .1 micron. It will prevent droplets from those already infected but I don't see how it would help in the healthy much. Maybe it slows down the air breathing out? But I don't see that helping a lot.
Sorry I wasn't being clear enough. We knew very early on N95 doesn't work.
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I watched the press conference where they launched the plan. That is emphatically not what was described.
A lot of people seem confused... granted it's the Guardian, but how did so many hear the same thing incorrectly? The idea that a "second wave" can even be avoided or that infection prevents reinfection is not known. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidem...
The U.K.’s Coronavirus ‘Herd Immunity’ Debacle. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/coronavir...
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> hundreds of academics already signed on So I should listen to a bunch of students, astronomers and others over the Chief scientific officer and health scientist in the country? Riighht....
You could also listen to the Harvard epidemiology department: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidem... Or the British Society for Immunology: https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-s... Or the two distinct open letters from UK scientists, which are now hitting 1200 signatures total: http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on... https://sites.google.com/view…
That's a complete strawman. You gave a letter signed by a massively padded out list of "academics" (probably intended to scare your average layman) and when pointed out that astronomers and students probably don't have much to offer right now
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The equivalent of the entire population of Glasgow passes through Kings Cross station in the morning rush hour. There are 4 other stations with similar flows. Over 20 million people live within an hour or 30 miles of Piccadilly Circus.
That level of population flow and population density are not as special as you are making them out to be. The transfer station nearest Seoul's most recent cluster (discovered 7 days ago) gets about 25% more annual traffic than King's Cross, according to Wikipedia (125,000 per day at Sindorim Station vs. 34 million at King's Cross annually). Despite the cluster having developed at the beginning of March, Seoul is find…
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You could also listen to the Harvard epidemiology department: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidem... Or the British Society for Immunology: https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-s... Or the two distinct open letters from UK scientists, which are now hitting 1200 signatures total: http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on... https://sites.google.com/view…
> If you believe nobody credible opposes the UK government, you've been fed a narrative. That's a complete strawman. You gave a letter signed by a massively padded out list of "academics" (probably intended to scare your average layman) and when pointed out that astronomers and students probably don't have much to offer right now
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"Stop it because it's unimaginable that the UK government is intentionally trying to kill off it's old folks no matter how much money that may save the NHS, in no small part because that would be akin to a genocide for profit"
Have you heard about the Windrush scandal? It's (probably) not about the NHS but more about "we kicked out so many illegal immigrants last year, aren't we great?" (not that these people are illegal immigrants, but hey, let's make burden of proof tests that are hard for them to pass), but, incredible how seemingly easy it is for the Home Office to be heartless to the point of killing people via red tape.