Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by thih9 » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 9:25 AM UTC

laurent123456 wrote: post #415

t-writescode wrote: post #338

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Nintendo is over 100. There are breweries with *thousand* year leases to the British Monarchy. Lots of kinds of companies have survived major world transformations.

Looks like many of the oldest companies in the word are indeed Japanese. Kongo Gumi, a construction firm, dates back from 578. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_companies

Kongō Gumi seems no longer independent though.

> In January 2006, after falling on difficult times, it became a subsidiary of the Takamatsu Construction Group.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongō_Gumi

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by TheOtherHobbes » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 9:25 AM UTC

iamcurious wrote: post #638

tomxor wrote: post #623

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> vocabulary and grammar have changed a lot since then, and if you look back a further 500 years (to 1021AD) the "English" spoken in those days was a lot closer to Frisian than anything we'd understand. The world was also a very different place, I suspect language will evolve far slower over the next 500 years due to the vast new interconnectedness that society has never experienced before. I think in 500 years, some…

We went from fotolog to Facebook to Instagram to tiktok in a decade or so. In a few years more it will be something 3d we can't completely envision, who knows in a few decades. In each iteration language changes faster, cause memes are language. In 500 years this will be gibberish. Who knows if people will even know how to read?

It might not be gibberish. But let's pretend one possible next step is computer assisted/accelerated cognition.

Which means your incredibly interesting autobiographical web page which will be about as deep and interesting as an emoji, and hold attention for roughly as long.

Another possible - currently more likely - next step is extinction because of climate change, so there's no guarantee that OP will even have great grandchildren.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by rikroots » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 9:30 AM UTC

I get my personal sites scraped and saved by the British Library's UK Web Archive[1]. There's no guarantee that my poems will still be viewable in the year 2521, but they're my best bet for immortality.

[1] - https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/uk-web-archive#

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by MegamiTensei » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 9:49 AM UTC

Yes, "rent" a "lifetime VPS" at zap hosting, they only do so for gaming servers so rent a Minecraft one (make sure it's Spigot) and put on this plugin. https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/web-bridge.39843/ Now restart the server, throw the website files in the plugin and restart it again. Easy.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by craigr1972 » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:13 AM UTC

In a cave on the far side of the moon. Or, encode the information to be preserved in the DNA of various types of creatures on earth who between them various different number of individuals, lifespan (some very short, some very long) ubiquity across the planet, vulnerability to ecological change. Cockroaches, long living trees, plankton, mosquitoes and dare I say it, humans.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by begueradj » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:15 AM UTC

There will be no websites in 500 years.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by entjcoin » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:30 AM UTC

Arweave is something that is being used in the Blockchain space for permanent storage. I believe the upfront cost you pay initially covers storage for the first 200 years. https://arwiki.wiki/#/en/main

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by deepandmeaning » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 11:20 AM UTC

There are companies that are researching the use of encoding information in DNA strands, as it holds both lots of information, and degrades relatively slowly over time...

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by LadyCailin » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 11:22 AM UTC

necovek wrote: post #359

LadyCailin wrote: post #260

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I was very young at the time, but I was absolutely convinced that the world would end at 2020. It didn’t, and that deeply ingrained in me a very substantial amount of skepticism from doomsdaysayers. The only doomsday I believe in now for absolute certainty is the heat death of the universe, but no one reading this will be around for that.

Luckily, you are much older and wiser today, a full year later! :) I am assuming you are thinking of 2000, though, and only mistyped 2020 because... well, that one was weird, but only a year ago.

Haha! Yes, you are correct, I meant 2000. To be fair, had someone predicted the end of the world in 2020 that would have seemed extremely accurate in retrospect.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Post by bloopernova » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 11:40 AM UTC

chrisweekly wrote: post #549

zarmin wrote: post #459

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Maybe a better question is, what would HTML have looked like in the time of Shakespeare? Forsooth!

Haha, reminds me of "If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Wrote-JavaScript-Angus-Crol... which is actually kind of amusing and creative.

Holy Carp and Salmon, that's great!

This Shakespeare JavaScript is fantastic and I want to write all my comments in this style: https://imgur.com/gallery/IKlBAX0

EDIT: huh, imgur removes the word "javascript" from post titles and descriptions. Weird that they couldn't find a better way to stop javascript attacks.