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Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#703
Having dealt with some of what you are dealing with, I will share some thoughts.

There's tremendous social power in humility. Go onto LinkedIn, and start connecting with people you know from elementary, high school, college, and your master's. Reconnect with those you were closest with once upon a time. You can also simply ask for advice from some poeple by asking for informational interviews with them.

Remember that depression, anxiety and mental disease will make you lie to yourself. For example, I hear shades of those lies when I see you say something is "too late" or a "pity case" or that you "wallowed" and so let your life pass you by. These are all lies.

I think that very few people - excluding, you'll pardon the profanity, assholes - would not understand taking care of your father, then taking care of your family and grieving. In fact, many people will greatly respect you for that. Again, your depression may be lying to you there.

Again, another lie: 43 is not too late for a wife or kids.

It is difficult that you do not have mental health resources nearby you. I get the impression you are not in the U.S., and so I don't know what the state of telehealth is in your country, but here in the U.S. a large amount of therapists meet with their client via video screen, making distance less of a concern. Maybe that is happening where you are.

If not, I would recommend learning about something called "learned helplessness". It is in a book called "Learned Optimism" by Martin Seligman. It explores how we explain things to ourselves, and how people can get into the habit of explaining bad events as personal faults. I feel that's what you're doing.

Two things you might want to do that might seem childish, but could be useful. The first is to wear a rubber band on your wrist, and each time you hear yourself deriding yourself, snap it against your wrist. You'll begin to become a lot more conscious of the messages you are sending yourself.

The other suggestion is to start adding a few words to each insult you tell yourself. "Right now, my mind is telling me that ... ". "Right now, my mind is telling me that I'm worthless." The idea is to start associating the fact that these statements are a mental message, not the truth.

There are a lot of people whose lives didn't begin until their forties. I don't know if you ever watched the TV show "Frasier," but the actor who played his dad didn't start acting until his forties. There are a lot of other people who didn't begin until later in life.

And what you have done already is not throwing away your life. You got a master's and helped your father and your family. These are all hard and noble things. I am telling you as an objective stranger: it is okay for you to feel proud of yourself for these things. None of this is shameful.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#704
- first take care of your health, physical and mental both. - Try smaller goals, for a week, then month. Any change would take some time so don't rush. - I would say don't go in relationship immediately until you are completely sure - I am grown up in developing country where people have much more challenges in life you might not imagine but they do their best one day at a time. Past is gone, focus on your daily routine. - See if there are any local NGOs where you can be a volunteer - Invest time in your skills based on your preference and past experience.

All the best and things will change for sure.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#705
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Why so hostile to therapy? I have a great supportive network of friends and family, but even so a few times in my life I have seen a psychologist that gave me actionable advice that really helped me deal with personal hardships. An impartial trained professional can often see much more clearly what you’re blind to; friends mean well but sometimes their intuitive advice is actually the opposite of what you need to hea…

I'm not saying psychotherapy is useless, only that its proliferation is a sign of a gap in society, and that psychotherapy would ideally be reserved for fairly edge cases (traumas, genetic conditions, sudden extreme events, PTSD, etc.). NOT so much a routine go-to for common existential problems. The fact that this is the solution is a sad reflection of a society with holes in it. And further that the proliferation o…

In Europe, we live in societies that witnessed two world wars, a Holocaust, and the less lucky corners of it Stalinism and also civil wars. That is enough trauma for anyone to take. And these are not edge cases.

We are children and grandchildren of people who went through all that and did not have any meaningful way to process it.

Our society is not sicker than it used to be. It is likely the opposite. And that is partly because we understand mental health better today so we can process our trauma. Including that which was handed over to us in the form of alcoholism, abuse, or neglect by our less fortunate ancestors.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#706
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This sounds like glass half-empty type of view. While pessimists never get disappointed, it also skews ones perception of the world so that one does not see the inherent opportunities, nor does one act to embrace those opportunities. It's much better to ask "what is the best version of events" that could come out of this and try to act so that happens (even thought that will then lead to disappointments)

There is fake it till you make it (which is what you are suggesting) and ignoring reality.

People can start and find wonderful and fulfilling lives in their 40's. Personally I have no idea what the OP is like and if this discussion is the only interaction you've had with the person, neither likely do you. Which means both of us are unable to guess what he can still achieve in life. A borderline depressed person will describe their circumstances and capabilities in a way that plausibly does not in fact reflect their full potential.

There are some career paths for which not only doors close at an early age but they require specific circumstances to even be feasible - like an Olympic gold medalist. Most lives are not like that (than heavens) and people are able to find meaning and fulfillment in lots of circumstances.

If you don't know a person, then the charitable interpretation is to trust they are capable of humanly achieving what ever they set their minds to, that people starting from similar circumstances have achieved. With the input data (40+, masters) the range of possibilities is quite large.

"Faking it till you make it" is perhaps not an accurate description. It presumes you need to prove something to someone. A person just needs to find the thing they like doing, and then thrive in doing that. Once you thrive people will notice anyway. There is nothing wrong in starting humbly, and then moving upwards once skill and confidence builds up.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#708
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Fellow ADHD austisic here. Who do you follow on Twitter that helped you? Also anything else that helped with either ADHD or autism, ADHD meds don't work for me so I'm struggling to find something that does

I would say the #actuallyautistic hashtag in general (now on mastodon), and I really enjoyed the book "unmasking autism" by Devon Price and Neuroqueer Heresies by Nick Walker.

Thanks I'll look into those:)

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#709
> severe procrastination and a masterful ability to lie to myself.

This 12 step program helped me in my 50s.

https://underearnersanonymous.org

> Underearners Anonymous® is a Twelve Step Fellowship of people who have come together to help themselves and one another recover from underearning.

> Underearning is many things, not all of which are about money. While the most visible consequence is the inability to provide for one’s needs, including future needs, underearning is also about the inability to fully acknowledge and express our capabilities and competencies. It is about underachieving, or under-being, no matter how much money we make.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#710
Echo recommendation for CBT. Helped me greatly and it will help you.

How old will you be in 5 years if you do nothing? 45. If you make big changes, how old will you be in 5 years? The same? The point is: your age has nothing to do with it. At 40, you're still young.

Get thee back to the US. You can change careers.

You can have a wife and kids. Although be prepared to meet women with "baggage" - a prior divorce and children. The key to find a wife is to treat it like a second full-time job. Were you raised in a particular religious faith? If yes, join a singles group associated to it? Worried that you'll meet a woman who will want to go to church every Sunday? Stop worrying -- you can sit through anything for an hour.

You're not too old. It's not too late.

Good luck.

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