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Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by pron »

Link- wrote: post #65
pron wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the gap is certainly absurd (though I'm not sure about the validity of the numbers you quoted). But there are many absurdities about this conflict. This is what I posted here during the previous spat (exactly 600 days ago): The mutual bloodshed is terrible, and, as a resident of Tel Aviv I'm personally affected, but there is one thing that has always perplexed me a bit, which is the perception of the actual fero…

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

Yes, children on both sides were killed in the last several days, and yes, the residents of Gaza are certainly worse off -- as they have been for the past many decades -- than most Israelis (mostly through no fault of Israel's). I really wish this conflict would end as soon as possible, and I'm actively trying, in my very modest civilian capacity, to advance a peaceful resolution. But let me assure you that no genocide is taking place.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by benjiz »

Link- wrote: post #65
pron wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the gap is certainly absurd (though I'm not sure about the validity of the numbers you quoted). But there are many absurdities about this conflict. This is what I posted here during the previous spat (exactly 600 days ago): The mutual bloodshed is terrible, and, as a resident of Tel Aviv I'm personally affected, but there is one thing that has always perplexed me a bit, which is the perception of the actual fero…

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

The irony of pointing out that Wikipedia lacks perfect credibility and then citing twitter posts as a source!

Those pictures under the #GazaUnderAttack are often fake (e.g. from other conflicts, such as Syria) as pointed out by the BBC [1] just yesterday.

Twitter posts are about as useful and hysterical (and in the literal meaning, not funny) as YouTube comments and for the large part do nothing to promote useful discussion or accurate reporting.

More to the point, why are you politicizing a discussion that so far has been thankfully apolitical?

[1]: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-28198622

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by leccine »

Link- wrote: post #22
yuvadam wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, I completely understand, and trust me our views on this issue aren't very different. My goal is to disseminate breaking news and alerts as quickly and widely as possible, to whomever needs it.

As I do understand and empathize with your cause. And trust that I'm not looking for a political argument or the likes. The comment above is a painful cry out towards the absurdity of the situation in an attempt to shed some light on the colossal 'gap' between the worries of both sides..

FYI HN people don't line sarcasm or irony on the portal. I still try to figure it out why... Any time I see this, I kinda feel like:

http://www.hdwallpapers.in/walls/why_so_serious-wide.jpg

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by msantos »

This is probably relevant: https://twitter.com/LTCPeterLerner/status/486203341622370304

"Peter Lerner

Israel Defense Forces Spokesman for International Media & Commander of the IDF Social Media activities.."

    Download code red app to see what's happening in Israel & where rockets are landing 
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/red-alert-israel/id873642097?ls=1&mt=8

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by aerialfish »

yuvadam wrote: post #34
djyaz1200 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respect the intent to make a tool for peace, not a weapon. Want to point out that "Various purposes" might include the people shooting the missiles seeing if/where they land? These communications might better be conducted via bulk PM?

Possibly, but most reports never mention specific coordinates. Israelis already have complete drone coverage of Gaza Strip, they don't need reports on hits. Palestinians cannot possibly use coordinates to aim homebrew rockets being used. Hit radius is e.g. around 1km for far range rockets.

During the last flare up with Hezbollah, my friends in the Haifa suburbs told me that there were some gag orders on some rockets that landed near them to prevent Hezbollah from knowing that they had successful hits. But I suppose the rockets of Hamas vs Hezbollah would be different.

EDIT: Seems like their rockets are reaching Tel Aviv so I guess they aren't as crude as they used to be...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by dai_pole »

benjiz wrote: post #72
Link- wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

The irony of pointing out that Wikipedia lacks perfect credibility and then citing twitter posts as a source! Those pictures under the #GazaUnderAttack are often fake (e.g. from other conflicts, such as Syria) as pointed out by the BBC [1] just yesterday. Twitter posts are about as useful and hysterical (and in the literal meaning, not funny) as YouTube comments and for the large part do nothing to promote useful dis…

Anyone whom can be bothered to read the Wikipedia "talk pages" can see for themselves that Wikipedia articles are edited to be thoroughly biased concerning Palestine/Israeli affairs.

I find it strange that you created an account less than 20 minutes ago to take part in the "political discussion" yourself, unless you're working professionally as part of the "hasbara" effort?!

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by calibraxis »

pron wrote: post #67
chimeracoder wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would appreciate if you (or someone) would, since if they're already posted here, those of us who don't speak Hebrew are left wondering about the context of the discussion.

Nah, that will just piss me off terribly. Instead, let me translate a recent tweet by some (other) clever Israeli: I will never forgive the Middle East for making me hate nationalists, while people like me in the rest of the enlightened world have long since moved on to hating capitalists

Thanks, that is clever! Though I guess they shouldn't feel so bad; capitalism intersects with other oppressive systems like patriarchy, race and the state...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by Link- »

pron wrote: post #71
Link- wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

Yes, children on both sides were killed in the last several days, and yes, the residents of Gaza are certainly worse off -- as they have been for the past many decades -- than most Israelis (mostly through no fault of Israel's). I really wish this conflict would end as soon as possible, and I'm actively trying, in my very modest civilian capacity, to advance a peaceful resolution. But let me assure you that no genoci…

I share the same hopes for peaceful resolution pron, and I personally, truly, appreciate your endeavors. If there's any way we can combine efforts to reach the same goals in balancing the odds, I'm more than willing to invest my time (among other resources) in that. I'm afraid, though, that deep geo-political agendas govern this conflict and any if not all civilian initiatives are dwarfed compared to these forces at play. I have witnessed, first-hand Israel's destruction, from the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the 80's, Qana genocide in the 90's to the attacks on Lebanon in 2006 and I'm more than familiar with this entity's capacity of destruction; making it hard to believe that these are non civilian targeting attacks with the purpose of self-defense.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by korzun »

serf wrote: post #66
korzun wrote: post #63

No links to your service. Running 'emergency feed' that has thousands of users depending on it with API limits without factoring in rate limiting ahead of time. Not to mention that Israel has active defense systems that alert your general area via sirens when missiles are coming. Why is this on front page?

because it's not very common that this community can potentially pitch in to save lives on an immediate basis, and this happens to be one of those occasions. those relying on the service should not be penalized by the software development practices of the person who wrote it with the best of intentions, and the opportunity existed for that to be avoided via community outreach (and it worked).

Why would anybody in Israel rely on such 'service' when they have fully automated missile detection system that sounds alarms within the region of possible impact.

Not to mention that twitter feed that gets it's news from another web site is a giant waste of time if you are trying to avoid rockets.

It seems to me you drank the kool-aid, without any fact checking.

If you want to do the 'lives' angle, if my life was at risk I would rely on billion dollar missile defense system. Not a delayed Twitter feed.

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