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Re: Ask HN: Why is PGP not used widely?

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Yup. I have made an active use of GPG over the last few months, and there's a few big problems: 1. A UX that is... Hard. As you say. See the last few minutes of this talk I did: http://youtu.be/LjZk8PP-u3c 2. You can't PGP with webmail. 3. You can't PGP on mobile. 4. This means that unless you're on your desktop, you can't do things like search through older emails, which is really important. 5. It requires both peop…

1. Agreed. 2. http://www.mailvelope.com/ https://countermail.com/ http://www.hushmail.com/ 3. http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/ 4. Well, you could if you jump through some hoops. Which describes using PGP in general. 5. Not only that, it requires both people to use it _correctly_.

Hushmail has given your info to the Feds. All the others could be. It's a trust issue.

Same with mobile. There's 'pgp for iOS' but I'll be damned if I upload my private key to a system running all proprietary software...

Re: Ask HN: Why is PGP not used widely?

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was bored so made something - http://postimg.org/image/8sm7otl2p/full/

interesting! i can clearly understand what each means, but i think the average person might get confused. how about just the key and the open padlock? signed/encrypted content can have the icon on the side (kind of like the shortcut indicator in windows)?

I might have a bit more of a play about with it, oh and here's the svg as a gist if anyone wants it - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7308250

Re: Ask HN: Why is PGP not used widely?

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I think it's because there still isn't a good metaphor that covers up the complexity of public key encryption. Such a metaphor is a prerequisite for a UI that the average user can comprehend. First, I think we should rename the keys to 'locking key' and 'unlocking key'. I've had people still scratch their heads at 'public/private' a few days after I've completely explained the concept to them. They find it easier to…

> First, I think we should rename the keys to 'locking key' and 'unlocking key'. Why not go a step further and call one ‘key’ and the other ‘lock’? So you can share (copies of) your lock freely with others, and if they want to send encrypted email to you, they take your ‘lock’ and put it on that email. It then becomes obvious that you shouldn’t share the private key (after all, anybody could then unlock the locks) an…

I like this metaphor very much. It is much easier to wrap it.

Re: Ask HN: Why is PGP not used widely?

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I will put it SIMPLY. The AVERAGE user hasn't a clue about things this complex nor that it even exists. It needs to come packaged as a fully functioning part of the email clients and be as transparent to them as the send button is when your email client having that SMTP conversation with your mail server.
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