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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by dust-jacket »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #52
bitpush wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There also seems to be an odd standoff between Apple and the streaming apps, eg no native YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, etc Apple made the bed when they openly were hostile to the developers. There's a reason why every platform courts the developers (Remember MS's "developers developers developers"). Apple could get away from being a jerk because the devices were attractive, and the distribution it offered was stellar…

> So they decided to sit out. And cue the fall out. What's the play ? They may get new customers by making an app for the apple pro, they get nothing if they don't. I don't the economic interest in waiting.

Software development is expensive. Like eye-wateringly expensive. A team of developers, product, designers, testers on a new app costs a big amount of money so its a gamble each time.

Without a large audience, spending money on porting to AVP is either money down the drain or a bet on a large audience coming along soon.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by xuf »

akie wrote: post #54
JeremyHerrman wrote: post #21

I think of the AVP like Steve Jobs once described: headphones for video [0] I use it a few hours a day, a few times a week exclusively as a virtual display for my macbook. Being able to put a huge virtual monitor anywhere is the killer feature and I don't tend to use it for anything else. It's indispensable on flights where laptop lids can't even fully open. Apple got the interactions just about perfect for AR window…

> overall embarrassment You're right, and it's also why this device is such a non sequitur for Apple. Almost all of their successful products are trendsetting and cool (iPhone, mac, airpods), this is one causes embarrassment and I just don't think it's fixable.

As I remember, and supported by the article quoted below, AirPods were ridiculed quite a bit when first launched.

>Of all the widely ridiculed tech products, Apple’s AirPods have experienced an extraordinary turnaround. Back in 2016, they were roundly mocked by the tech industry. Tiny wireless earbuds? It seemed like a recipe for disaster – streets would be littered with these lost headphones, which would clutter up city pavements like discarded gloves and babies’ socks." – https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2019/feb/10...

Relevant Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/51yazy/this_is_what_...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by prmoustache »

santiagobasulto wrote: post #10

I don't own Apple Vision Pro, but I tested them two times already and I'm amazed by the technology. I honestly think it's the future. We're probably WAY too early yet, and the Vision Pro might fail badly, but it is indeed the future. I did a special test session in Japan for "productivity" (the guys at the Apple Store were very friendly and agreed to let me install VSCode and Ghostty on the testing laptop. I cloned a…

The future is not needing to strap some heavy thing to your face but have a chip directly connected to your brain to serve as an interface for a computer.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by sharaththegeek »

ozgung wrote: post #63
Oreb wrote: post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

How is yor eyesight? Did it change?

Same question. I have tried it a few times and weight hasn't been a concern. I am more worried about long-term effects on the eyes.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by chrizel »

zerr wrote: post #57
elisbce wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't imagine how strong your neck must be. For me, the weight alone is a deal breaker.

Why not have a battery externally, attached with a long cable?

The Vision Pro battery is already external, isn't it? But the device is heavy anyway, I think because of the used materials like glass.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by BoorishBears »

dgellow wrote: post #42
santiagobasulto wrote: post #10

I don't own Apple Vision Pro, but I tested them two times already and I'm amazed by the technology. I honestly think it's the future. We're probably WAY too early yet, and the Vision Pro might fail badly, but it is indeed the future. I did a special test session in Japan for "productivity" (the guys at the Apple Store were very friendly and agreed to let me install VSCode and Ghostty on the testing laptop. I cloned a…

What makes it fantastic and the future? Your comment is just saying it’s great but doesn’t explain why

I have one and think it's meh. The display is great, but the lenses are a let down and the FOV is not great for using a (simulated) large monitor.

I only use it when traveling. It's not better than a high quality computer monitor for coding for me, and I'd expect the same to be true for most.

Also a bit meta but... if you ask a question that involves using the AVP in 2026, you're mostly getting answers from a minority of die hards.

Anyone else has probably left theirs sitting around gathering dust for a while now. Last I checked there are actually fewer AVP apps over time, so this isn't exactly a thriving platform.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by jwr »

ganonm wrote: post #59
jwr wrote: post #41

I'm also curious. I bought the cheap alternative: XReal One Pro and… it is kind of as expected. It is a cheap alternative. Don't expect to use it for coding for several hours a day, in spite of what people keep saying. The optics are not up to it: there are imperfections in the lenses resulting in blurry areas of the screen, very visible as you move your head around. They are great for watching video, make for a fant…

I've been using the XReal One Pros for coding work for a few months now, and have had a great experience. For me, the ergonomic benefits are the selling point, not the display quality. Not having to sit hunched over a laptop screen for several hours means I can work almost anywhere. Sometimes I'll use it in a cafe. Other times I just lie down in bed. I also make use of speech to text, so I just need to be able to pre…

My problem was not the resolution, I could live with that. The problem is with optics: some areas of the screen are blurry. Depending on the particular unit you get (I had mine replaced once), the blurry areas are in different places. You might get a spot in the middle, or slightly to the side. If you fix your virtual display in place and move your head around, the blurriness will move across your virtual screen.

As I said, I had my glasses replaced because I thought I got a faulty unit, but the next one just had the blurry spots in different places. Then on a trip to Japan I visited several stores that had them on display and checked the display units — they all have the same problem.

I am not sure why, but not everyone is bothered by this. Perhaps some people don't care, or have had poor eyesight all along so they never saw the screen clearly. But for me there is a huge difference between seeing everything that's in front of me clearly and seeing blurry patches on my screen.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by bpavuk »

prmoustache wrote: post #73
santiagobasulto wrote: post #10

I don't own Apple Vision Pro, but I tested them two times already and I'm amazed by the technology. I honestly think it's the future. We're probably WAY too early yet, and the Vision Pro might fail badly, but it is indeed the future. I did a special test session in Japan for "productivity" (the guys at the Apple Store were very friendly and agreed to let me install VSCode and Ghostty on the testing laptop. I cloned a…

The future is not needing to strap some heavy thing to your face but have a chip directly connected to your brain to serve as an interface for a computer.

UGH! imagine a BCI chip serving advertisements into your brain directly and recording everything from how you breathe to how you fuck to "personalize" said ads.

no, I love technology, but I will never bind a piece of tech directly into my brain. we failed with mobile phones and we WILL definitely fail with BCI chips, ON THE EXACT SAME SPOTS. they will be impressive, sure, but they will also hold us captive past user acquisition period

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by codethief »

jwr wrote: post #41

I'm also curious. I bought the cheap alternative: XReal One Pro and… it is kind of as expected. It is a cheap alternative. Don't expect to use it for coding for several hours a day, in spite of what people keep saying. The optics are not up to it: there are imperfections in the lenses resulting in blurry areas of the screen, very visible as you move your head around. They are great for watching video, make for a fant…

Fellow Xreal One Pro owner here. I agree 100%. The One Pros do make for a fantastic travel accessory but when it comes to coding (or reading text in general) for longer periods of time, my eyes usually start hurting after 2-3 hours because text is not 100% sharp and there's a slight blurriness / Moiré effect. (Which is a real bummer because, posture-wise, wearing the glasses puts a lot less strain on my neck than looking at a screen.)

That being said, there have been quite a few reports on Reddit lately from people that do use the glasses for coding all day every day. At the same time, my impression is that there have been fewer complaints about text blurriness than right after the One Pro got released. So I've started suspecting that Xreal might have fixed something about the hardware in recent batches. This is all very anecdotal, though. Maybe the hardware is the same and it's just my eyes.

Either way, I'm excited about future models with higher resolution. As many other people here in the thread said: This is definitely the future.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by codethief »

ganonm wrote: post #59
jwr wrote: post #41

I'm also curious. I bought the cheap alternative: XReal One Pro and… it is kind of as expected. It is a cheap alternative. Don't expect to use it for coding for several hours a day, in spite of what people keep saying. The optics are not up to it: there are imperfections in the lenses resulting in blurry areas of the screen, very visible as you move your head around. They are great for watching video, make for a fant…

I've been using the XReal One Pros for coding work for a few months now, and have had a great experience. For me, the ergonomic benefits are the selling point, not the display quality. Not having to sit hunched over a laptop screen for several hours means I can work almost anywhere. Sometimes I'll use it in a cafe. Other times I just lie down in bed. I also make use of speech to text, so I just need to be able to pre…

> it's important to use Better display to upscale the output to the XReals to high DPI

I got excited for a second but then read Better Display[0] is only available for MacOS? :(

[0]: https://betterdisplay.pro/

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