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Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#71
Gonna pile on: you really really really have to go all in on coding exercises. These infuriating and stupid coding assessments are just that. But you absolutely will make it past that hurdle.

And if you're gunning for senior positions, you'll have to suffer the system designs as well.

Keep practicing and don't let a single day slip by without training. If you need a change of pace, code something on the side that's genuinely fun and zero stakes. It will all come together eventually.

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#72
The one thing they taught me about jobs and the future in the C.A.C.C (California cadet corps) was that the more you help out/volunteer the more likely you are to get a job over someone else who didn't do anything this can also apply to stuff you did in high school depending if you did stuff in high school or not could also help :p

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People on HN saying $150k is a "high bar" is frankly insulting. Anyone in the bay who's not a founder or working for a meaningless company easily clears $200k. I've started two companies, exited one and technically have the skills of a "senior engineer". I've managed teams of engineers and have architected remote factory production systems for one of my companies along with a dozen or so relatively complex web apps i…

This reply makes you sound like you’re up your own arse.

What? It's an utterly straight-forward summary of their work experience and a factual statement about salaries offered as a counter-example to the parent. There's is no (obvious) hubris in it.

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#75
I've read all the comments in this thread and I will be frank with you.

You are arrogant and entitled. You are not as great as you think you are. If you were, you would have what you want. But you don't. And even if you were great, you (or anyone for that matter) shouldn't be arrogant or entitled. It's a terrible way to live. Insulting those who are trying to help you by calling their advice "boomer cope" is beyond asinine and just the topping on the cake.

Your problem is that you think you deserve something. You don't. In the strictest sense what you "deserve" is exactly what you have right now, which is nothing. "Deserve" is meaningless word anyway. As if there is some universal objective truth about what the state of your life "should" be.

If you want to get out of this rut, humble yourself, get whatever software job you can get (assuming you want to stay in this industry), and slowly work your way up over the coming decades. That's reality.

It's also clear that you have no true sense of ownership or responsibility. You have a victim mindset. It oozes out of everything you say. Some examples:

Q: "Why can you not pass tech screens? You mean leetcode questions?"

> I don't really know, none of this was a problem when I got my last job in tech (as a non-founder).

Who cares what the state of the world was when you got your last job? Clearly you're not cutting it today. Does living in the glory days of your past put food on your table now?

> My best guess is they thought my skills weren't advanced enough for my age or found it weird I was bald.

No hiring manager cares that you're bald. That's just you blaming them for your lack of skills.

> I'm legitimately going to just move to another country if one more boomer tells me I just have to "wait for the stars to align" one more time.

You won't have to wait until another "boomer" tells you that (how do you even know who is a boomer, and why does it matter if they are?). Your current crappy attitude will all but ensure you will fail and be forced into such a situation.

All that aside, I hope you fix your attitude and improve your life. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#76
Don't worry about the money too much. You're trying to solve multiple equations at the same time. Focus on getting your foot in the door somewhere in a job you like. It would have been great if you could have picked up 150k/year job as easily now as in the past, but the market has turned south.

It is easier to get a job when you have one already. You don't have to solve all the problems at once.

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As in they didn't ask leetcode-style questions or you solved the same sort of questions no problem?

These were real-world type problems etc. Maybe I just use cursor too much and I've forgotten the short-hand they were looking for. Prior I never had to do leetcode screens for interviews because of my network - don't really regret not burning tons of hours grinding leetcode. My best guess is they thought my skills weren't advanced enough for my age or found it weird I was bald.

IMO it's always been a red flag if a company doesn't do coding screens, even if someone at the company says they're good. There's just too many awful programmers out there to be willing to move forward with a candidate on word of mouth alone.

It really sounds like you just need to brush up on your interviewing skills, maybe some leetcode practice, maybe you just need someone to stare at you while you solve problems to get over the nerves of the situation.

I used to practice in an environment without even basic autocomplete because I felt like it was more effective, maybe something like that would help you.

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you only applying to senior roles? Idk the specifics of your background, but it sounds like you haven't been somewhere long enough to get promoted and have largely worked on your own projects. To me that doesn't really say that you have senior engineer skills, i.e. designing scalable systems (both in compute and development-wise), leading multi-person projects, considering trade-offs, etc.

I built a bespoke IOT stack that currently runs over 10k devices and a full production line interface / deployment for a factory we used in china. I'm not going to define what "senior engineer" is, but this was done largely solo with engineers I managed to maintain it.

Sounds impressive enough to probably get a senior role somewhere. Maybe you aren't selling yourself well in your resume?

Re: Ask HN: Can't get hired – what's next?

#80

I'd say 150K is shooting for the stars depending on your skill set. It can happen in good times but sometime you gotta revalue your times worth. As far as leaping out, yeah there's a ton of opportunity while keeping a "tech" base: CCTV Installer (Commercial IP Security Cams), VoIP (Business Phone Systems), POS (Point of Sale Restaurant and Retail).

I appreciate this, but I'm just not willing to fall for boomer cope. The notion that $150k will even let you raise a family where you don't care about looking poor (I don't care) is frankly insulting. I'm legitimately going to just move to another country if one more boomer tells me I just have to "wait for the stars to align" one more time.

Yeah, good luck, kinda see the problem here. We might be younger than you dude...
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