CityDesk if it was 24 years ago. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/12/what-does-citydesk...
Still not much that was easier to create a website for a non-tech user.
Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
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Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#72Why headless ? If non technical admin will post details about events, you can find a WordPress plugin for it and setup a WP site. Headless makes sense if you want to really customize the experience but you want "cheapest option" so I would assume they cannot pay for customizations anyway.
How else are they going to synergize with the latest paradigm shift? Headless is for sharing a common backend between a web site and phone apps. If you don't have the resources for the apps then it serves little purpose.
> Headless is for sharing a common backend between a web site and phone apps.
Or build/add an API when needed
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#73Cheapest? The most expesive part is going to be paying the person or company who sets it up, maintains, and documents it. I'm an expert at Drupal, so for my companies, Drupal is cheap and it can be adapted to grow and change over time as new ideas for the application are discovered; you don't know what your website will need next year so it's nice to have a CMS that is based on having the ability to adapt over time. Wordpress is only cheap if your ambitions for the site aren't big. Trying to do too much with it is a developer's nightmare. Peace.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#74Cheapest? The most expesive part is going to be paying the person or company who sets it up, maintains, and documents it. I'm an expert at Drupal, so for my companies, Drupal is cheap and it can be adapted to grow and change over time as new ideas for the application are discovered; you don't know what your website will need next year so it's nice to have a CMS that is based on having the ability to adapt over time.…
Oh, and unlike a lot of other answers, Drupal has great support for being headless, like you asked for.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#75The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…
In my experience, wordpress is very confusing for non-technical people to navigate. It is largely not different than a "custom" setup because it's always some patched together job of various plugins to the point that it becomes brittle and difficult to work with. I get the sense that technical people think it is more straightforward and prescribe it to people, but any non-technical person I've worked with is utterly lost in it.
I don't think the LLMs change the argument either. If anything, dealing with the complexities of wordpress could make it even more difficult without someone who knows what they're doing.
Somewhere around 15 years ago, I thought wordpress was viable, but I think we need to leave it in the dust. I worked with it again 5 years ago, and the situation was no different from what I could tell.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#76The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…
I hate to agree because I hate WordPress, but when building something for others especially in a volunteer community it's still the go-to solution. Pros, a ton of docs, easy non-technical customization, long term support, many already experienced users, made for basically exactly what you're doing. Cons, it's WordPress, and the actual wp-loop is a nightmare of bad choices.
In every experience I've had, non-technical people have had a terrible time doing customizations. Not a single time have I ever seen them successfully navigate customizing pages without someone else stepping in. I see this as the worst case scenario: non-technical people can't do it and technical people also can't because they only have subpar tools to do so. I disagree wholeheartedly with this assumption.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly can’t tell whether this comment is satire or this site is just full of people who have no ability (or no interest) in understanding other people. You don’t need to be a psychologist or even have a good understanding of other people to recognize what a ridiculous suggestion this is. You just have to care a tiny little bit about other people. Is that really too much to expect? Though given that the psychopat…
ctrl-f for sama on https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders shows no results, but please, tell us more about how you've generalized everybody here.
its not nice specifically to call people names
to generalize is to be an idiot
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#78The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…
In my experience, wordpress is very confusing for non-technical people to navigate. It is largely not different than a "custom" setup because it's always some patched together job of various plugins to the point that it becomes brittle and difficult to work with. I get the sense that technical people think it is more straightforward and prescribe it to people, but any non-technical person I've worked with is utterly…
Its just a website to post community events, don't think any plugins would be required.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#79The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…
Exactly. I don't know if they've gotten better, but I worked on a headless Contentful + Gatsby site (because the previous developers got sucked into JAMstack hype) and it was a comedic catastrophe.
It required constant developer oversight, even when only publishing one or two articles a week. Things broke all the time. Builds broke constantly. Things went wrong left right and center.
Don't do it. Give them a Wordpress site.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, wordpress is very confusing for non-technical people to navigate. It is largely not different than a "custom" setup because it's always some patched together job of various plugins to the point that it becomes brittle and difficult to work with. I get the sense that technical people think it is more straightforward and prescribe it to people, but any non-technical person I've worked with is utterly…
Its just a website to post community events, don't think any plugins would be required.
That never stopped anybody from installing them.