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Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

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Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#71
maybe borrow from Dwight? https://vlipsy.com/vlip/the-office-dwights-speech-bmeKIvGK

Seriously, I've had/have similar issues. Seems like maybe you don't project credibility within your groups? No fault of your own. Other commenters have touched on this but people really like to talk about themselves. A skill that I've tried to hone is going into "talk show" mode where I'm the host and I ask light, easy (and hopefully interesting) questions of someone else relative to what they are discussing. After doing this a bit, sometimes you can work your way into participating in the conversations in other ways. Like talking about your experience. It's not fair and I feel for you.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#72
post #35

It's pretty much impossible to say without observing you. This isn't a technical question that can be answered over text (as much as everyone here will try). Ask this question to some people you trust and simulate a conversation _in person_ to get feedback. Contact me (bio) and I'll have a 10 minute call with you if you'd like.

OP, listen to this. You may be giving lots of nonverbal signals. It’s not necessarily a simple conversation hack that can be described in text.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#73
Social interaction is a back-and-forth game and you need to follow the rhythm of it in order not to cut in mid-sentence and also allow others to continue the discourse.

You can't expect others to want to hear your monologues about travel, they will cut you off to progress the conversation.

Instead of trying to hijack the other person's travel comment, confirm them like "Oh yea, I liked that place too!" in piece-meal fashion. People dislike when they notice you are trying shift the focus like you described.

Small speeches is boring, unless you have interesting stuff to share. You also being on a trip to the same place is not very exciting.

Be curious about the others and pay attention.

Follow up on stuff later, like "how did it go at the dentist?". People like when you remember things about their life.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#74
post #53

I used to have a soft voice and would constantly be spoken over, and not really listened to. I also look very young (I am late 30s and I still get IDed when buying alcohol). Some things that helped me: - I grew a beared that accentuated my jawline - When people would begin to interrupt me, I would continue on with my sentence regardless of them speaking, and I would finish my sentence. I would be prepared to let it g…

Fwiw I have a deep voice and have had a beard for more than ten years. I've read HtWFaIP and some other good self-help/pop psych. I spend lots of time talking (though often to captive or disinterested audiences). I do some meditation, and tick lots of the other obvious boxes. I still struggle with keeping people's attention and it's bad enough to bother me. All I'm getting at is that if there's a silver bullet I have…

Could it be your enthusiasm or level of overall engagement of the other parties?

Perhaps take a recording of someone you find engaging to listen to, and record yourself and really play spot the difference.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#76
Do you happen to talk very slow? I know a couple of acquaintances who talk so slow that it's very hard to listen, while also not using pauses thus making it necessary to interrupt in order to answer.

Like not being able to join a discussion and more doing a very slow story telling

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#77
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think this is the whole picture. Humans do pay attention to captivating stories that are not about them. But of course there’s gotta be something in that story they can relate to.

that only proves my point - stories are a source of either wisdom or entertainment, both of which is a form of personal (and only personal) profit of the specific listener

But that’s not very helpful advice then. Basically you’re saying water is wet.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#78
post #4

People don't want their attention commanded. They want other people's attention. If you want people to care about what you say, say things they care about...say things that show you care about what they have to say. Because if what comes out of your mouth suggests you were just waiting for an opening to talk about yourself, people will tune out...unless of course they give you what you want. Be fun to talk to. The mo…

So it's like the Dad in American Pie said: "Interested... is interesting!"

But Stifler is still the character I remember the most.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#79
What you are describing is that other people around you are having a conversation, then the moment something you can relate to is talked about, you start talking about yourself. Do you really not see the problem? Seriously, do you think talking to someone is about each person talking about themselves in turn?

Sure, people love talking about themselves. But you don't even pretend that a conversation is anything but an opportunity for talking about yourself. Why do you believe that anyone would like to talk to someone like that?

Even in your example you say how annoying it is that someone interrupts you and talks about themselves, but somehow you ignore that you did the exact same thing just a minute earlier.

You aren't trying to have a conversation. You are trying to talk about yourself and people react exactly how you would expect.

>I think the saddest part of all this is that even my wife's attention drifts off most of the time I try to talk to her.

Me too.

Re: Ask HN: How can I learn to better command people's attention when speaking?

#80
> So, I figure it's not that I hang out with rude people, the problem must be me.

No, it's other people, not you. Most people are self-absorbed jerks who only love the sound of their own voice. The only reason they are not listening to you is because your are "low" (in one sense or another) in the social hierarchy of people around you. Being good-looking, well-dressed, rich, slim, or athletic helps...

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