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Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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> I’ve always thought of my ADHD as a superpower, as I have the ability to intensely hyperfocus and get incredible amounts of work done. This is the literal opposite of what AD(H)D is. You either don’t have ADHD or you have (arguably) ADHD primarily with hyperactivity. ADHD drugs are stimulants— they don’t treat hyperactivity, they treat the attention issue… and as a side effect they are likely to worsen hyperactivit…

> ADHD drugs are stimulants SOME of them are. > they don’t treat hyperactivity Yeah, no. That's just really misleading. The first day on stimulants was the calmest I experienced in years. The whole idea of hyperactivity is (extremely simplified) that your brain fills the space of missing external stimulation. That's where self-stimulation comes from.

> SOME of them are.

Yes, it's true that not all of them are. But the first line treatment is pretty much always a stimulant, and non-stimulant pharmacotherapies for ADHD tend to not be as successful.

The main class of drugs considered to be non-stimulant treatments for ADHD, NSRIs, will actually have a somewhat stimulant effect owing to their primary usage being that of an antidepressant.

In rare cases you may even prescribe a depressor, but that's something you very rarely want to do-- every case is different and these drugs may work for some patients, but generally speaking it's a niche treatment approach with a very unfavourable risk-benefit ratio.

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only have 2 years of med school and 12 years of biochem. So cringe.

It's surely way more cringe to be clueless about something while bragging about one's knowledge than basically any other combination of dispositions toward the thing.

Just because you don't like what I'm saying does not mean that it's not true. ADHD is very misunderstood.

This review is almost a decade old, but it should help correct some common misconceptions: https://sci-hub.se/10.1038/nrdp.2015.20

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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I'd recommend talking to a GOOD physician (a neurologist or a psychiatrist) - as a neurodiverse individual - I'm autistic, have ADHD, and have a few IQ points of being considered gifted - my doctor and therapist both told me that it was probably due to attention deficit) who has accomplished much without medication or awareness of these disorders (and giftedness). The tricky thing about being neurodiverse is that it is something ingrained into your brain - you don't know how it is to live without it - maybe you unconsciously masked some of the things.

A few things that are usually comorbidities of ADHD are mental health problems (such as anxiety or depression) and eating disorders (binge eating, anorexia, bulimia) - that you may have, and meds can help you with that (or not). A good doctor can give you the pros and cons. ADHDs also have more propensity for addiction (alcohol, drugs, gambling, pornography, etc) - so being aware of that can decrease the risk. Also, ADHDers can have low self-esteem (which is something that psychotherapy can help you overcome).

Despite being expensive (a few thousand dollars), one thing that could be a good idea is a neuropsychological evaluation that can give you more awareness (and data!) about your brain.

Medications should be part (and they can help a lot!) and not the whole of your therapeutic process: a psychotherapist specializing in cognitive-behavioral therapy (usually called CBT) can help you immensely. I also invested in occupational therapy (I'm a bit clumsy, and my handwriting could be better) and speech therapy to help transform and present my ideas into words - speaking with a doctor could be a good idea to help.

You certainly have a different history: my advice is to discuss it with your doctor and find the best tools (therapy, medications, adaptations to your work environment, etc) to overcome these challenges. Some medications can also have side effects - and a doctor must evaluate if - my doctor asked me for an electrocardiogram before recommending a medication)

A sound effect that medication had on me was that it helped me to overcome binge eating, and I felt less tired at the end of a workday (probably my brain was using a lot of energy to make me focus more on meetings).

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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A couple of things to consider. ADHD is more than the lack of focus, it also affects your emotions as well. People with ADHD tend to feel things more deeply and react more strongly. Meds can help.

And if you think: that’s not me. You may be right. But you may also not realize that you’re actually playing life on hard mode and while it may work now, it is unsustainable in the long term. Better to find something that helps now rather than wait until you are in crisis.

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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Ok so these are my personal experiences as an “intelligent” scattered ADHD type. Meditation works, exercise works, medication works, talk therapy works, organisational systems work. Organisational systems emerge as a result of effort applied and previously mentioned interventions. Read about your disability and understand it. Learn to understand your own limitations. Medication may be the spring board to form habits…

Do you have any recommended reading? Thanks.

Personally my favourite is a thread here:

https://x.com/uberstuber/status/1736489420466110843?s=46

It probably deserves a HN post of its own!

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surely way more cringe to be clueless about something while bragging about one's knowledge than basically any other combination of dispositions toward the thing.

Just because you don't like what I'm saying does not mean that it's not true. ADHD is very misunderstood. This review is almost a decade old, but it should help correct some common misconceptions: https://sci-hub.se/10.1038/nrdp.2015.20

Thanks! It looks like OP is described on page 9 of this document. So if anyone said that OP's self-reported ability to expend extreme effort to accomplish his work was indicative of him having the opposite of ADHD, I would certainly direct that person to read this document.

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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ADHD is a lot more than focus/inattention. It's emotional regulation, impulse control, executive functioning, time sense, and much more. My advice since you asked is to go see a neuropsychiatrist, discuss your experiences and symptoms, and go from there. Medication may help you, or it may not. We can't know from your brief description, but if your presentation of the condition has any of the factors I listed above, it is probable that some form of treatment would have a positive impact on your lived experience. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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ADHD is a lot more than focus/inattention. It's emotional regulation, impulse control, executive functioning, time sense, and much more. My advice since you asked is to go see a neuropsychiatrist, discuss your experiences and symptoms, and go from there. Medication may help you, or it may not. We can't know from your brief description, but if your presentation of the condition has any of the factors I listed above, i…

To follow up, one of the convenient things about ADHD medication (stimulants) is that taking them is akin to flipping a light switch. On or off, there isn't an interim period where you're waiting for the medication to build up in your system in order to see an effect, nor do you need to taper off of it like you do some other types of medications. So if you try something and find you don't like the effects or it doesn't do what you want it to do for you, you can simply stop right there and go back to the way you were doing things before.

Re: Ask HN: Should I medicate my ADHD?

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While anecdotal advice can be useful to contextualise stuff like this I would strongly be to urge you not to base this decision on advice from semi-anonymous people, and get a proper psychiatric assessment of your ADHD if you are able to. If you were diagnosed as a child it’s entirely possible that the nature of your ADHD has evolved over time. It used to be thought people “grow out of it” but this seems less well su…

Thank you for sharing… if I may ask what medication are you currently on? Is it a stimulant?

Not OP but Vyvanse is a miracle drug to me. It's a stimulant, same as Adderall, but a prodrug. Your body processes it into dexamphetamine so it is much smoother with little side effects.
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