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Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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Totally agree with that. This will play into your mental health as well. The more weight other people can carry, the less you have to do. Don't underestimate having to feed the brains of 10 people constantly when they can't/won't think for themselves.

This just sounds like someone who can't write good specs

No it doesn't. How do you write good specs for someone who is meant to own marketing for your business. You don't know marketing. You need someone who does.

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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Something obvious I didn't understand at first: the earlier stage you are, the smarter the people you need. They need to be autonomous, flexible, but above all brilliant at what they do. If you get "average" employees who just wants to follow the specs and receive their salary, they will most likely cost you more to manage than they will create value. In early stages, you're probably still trying to answer complex qu…

Do you reward these people with more than a fraction of a percent of equity? As someone who likes WLB enough, isn't enough of a gambler to take a 0.001% chance of being a millionaire over a 25-50% chance of getting a nice 6 figure payout from a more established startup, and has too many kids to boot, I never bothered looking at a company that didn't have a health insurance plan and a 401k match. But when I learned it was common for a founding engineer to get like half a percent of the company, I was appalled. I'd rather just start my own startup and roll the dice there if I'm still going to have to build the whole damn thing just for a fraction of a percent in equity.

It seems super weird that you'd literally be in the trenches with 1-2 other people who each have as much equity as 50-100 of you.

Otherwise, I mean, why should someone brilliant work for you instead of a company with much better odds of success?

Clearly, companies do hire founding engineers at these rates so maybe I'm the crazy one. But it just seems wild to me.

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Something obvious I didn't understand at first: the earlier stage you are, the smarter the people you need. They need to be autonomous, flexible, but above all brilliant at what they do. If you get "average" employees who just wants to follow the specs and receive their salary, they will most likely cost you more to manage than they will create value. In early stages, you're probably still trying to answer complex qu…

Totally agree with that. This will play into your mental health as well. The more weight other people can carry, the less you have to do. Don't underestimate having to feed the brains of 10 people constantly when they can't/won't think for themselves.

True. But it’s not only about thinking. In my experience it’s also a lot about the need for validation/ general independence. Many people (or even most?) need attention and regular pats on the back. Providing 10 people with this validation and attention can be a full time job.

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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I haven’t done it myself so I can’t speak from experience, but Rob Walling’s book “The SaaS Playbook” has a whole chapter on hiring and building a team. I found it insightful. The whole thing is a quick read/listen and I thought it was worth my time.

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Scale from 0-1 kills so many companies so I'm glad you're asking at this stage. What you need is a 'specialized generalist' someone who knows enough to set you up for success, get the first few hires, get your sales engine going, get your ops infra nailed down.... but doesn't necessarily want to slow you down when you need to scale out the functions you mentioned. This is how I operate basically; I help us get to 1,…

how long are you staying with one company usually? i imagine getting from one person to five can take anywhere from a month to a year or more depending on how fast revenue or investments are coming in.

i am kind of in this situation myself. but i primarily need sales partners in regions where i want to sell my services, while the rest is done by people offshore (me included)

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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But doesn't doing X for 1 month make you a charlatan? For example, consider you only did frontend/ui/ux for one month. How much rubbish you would pick up over that time by googling for tutorials or watching youtube videos to get you started; and how alien a real front-end veteran would look to you.

Yeah, the whole quote is one of those things that sounds like sage wisdom until you consider it for 30 seconds. Even if startup founders had time to spare spending a month learning how to doing each and every task they needed to hire for (and trading money they have for time they don't is the whole point of hiring) they'd (i) have no time left to focus on the core business (ii) do a really bad job and (iii) having ba…

It’s all so situational. In an early stage startup you really have to focus on the most critical things. I would question doing a lot of marketing early when it may be more important to do sales or just low scale, high touch customer testing/research. If it’s not worth your time to do it personally there is a huge risk in trying to hire someone to do it. The reason is that most people with the credentials to “run a function” in a successful business will be used to way more resources than a startup has. ICs with experience in the role will likely have only worked in structured environments where they will have all kinds of assumed constraints that are not relevant to this brand new startup.

That’s not to say I disagree with your points in general, but just that hiring is every bit as much of a minefield as doing things yourself. In either case you have to understand what is most crucial for the next stage of growth and prune everything else obsessively.

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree with that. This will play into your mental health as well. The more weight other people can carry, the less you have to do. Don't underestimate having to feed the brains of 10 people constantly when they can't/won't think for themselves.

This just sounds like someone who can't write good specs

Have you ever managed 10 people, wrote and checked specs and managed a business on top of that? Clearly not.

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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Something obvious I didn't understand at first: the earlier stage you are, the smarter the people you need. They need to be autonomous, flexible, but above all brilliant at what they do. If you get "average" employees who just wants to follow the specs and receive their salary, they will most likely cost you more to manage than they will create value. In early stages, you're probably still trying to answer complex qu…

Do you reward these people with more than a fraction of a percent of equity? As someone who likes WLB enough, isn't enough of a gambler to take a 0.001% chance of being a millionaire over a 25-50% chance of getting a nice 6 figure payout from a more established startup, and has too many kids to boot, I never bothered looking at a company that didn't have a health insurance plan and a 401k match. But when I learned it…

> when I learned it was common for a founding engineer to get like half a percent of the company, I was appalled. I'd rather just start my own startup

I don't think people appreciate how hard it is to go from 0-1. To validate a product/market, get initial customers, before raising, heavily derisks the business and 1% is fair. Sure, you could just start your own startup, but you'll have to go through the brutal glass eating process of doing exactly that, starting a company.

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just sounds like someone who can't write good specs

No it doesn't. How do you write good specs for someone who is meant to own marketing for your business. You don't know marketing. You need someone who does.

Well if you can't, then I guess we shouldn't be complaining about feeding brains and average employees who just want to follow specs

Re: Ask HN: As a first-time solopreneur how would you go about hiring the first team

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The book buy back time by Dan Martell has been one of the more interesting and actionable books I've read in a while.

For me, generalists with experience (a lot of different specific skills) and have learned how to learn so they can solve problems is key.

A lot of thie hiring in the start, especially self-funded can be a little counter intuitive. The purpose of hiring is to free you up to work on more valuable parts of things, assuming you want to work on those things.

If you focus on hiring people better than you, it will get you more free time.

Some people rather than equity, focus on what folks are really after, payouts. Doing rev or profit share can be easier than dealing with the mess of shares, especially if you don't know if they will be devoted to it long term like you.

For sales roles especially finding someone who can become a better sales person than you, it might involve a rare exception and providing ongoing commission as long as the customer is engaged on the system, and the sales person remains there.

In terms of looking for the talent, if you are looking for fractional assistance before full time, online sites like upwork can help find the people who are ready for something stable.

The book above will give some food for thought and there are others I'm sure too.

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