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Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#71
I've been curious about this sort of thing ever since I first read about the Sears kit homes from the 20th. I mean, if anyone has those plans, then you'd think they'd have been scanned and uploaded to IA. I guess no one ever took Sears up on the "we'll send you the plans for free" page that was in the catalog.

I can say that the places that sell house plans, they want anywhere from about $3000 on up for the paper version, and they're usually numbered and watermarked. Digital ends up costing you several more grand on top of that, and I'm not sure exactly how they lock those down. On top of that, they're often missing important things like the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing plans. Your contractor is supposed to do that on the back of a napkin or something.

Ideally, any plans you'd find would have the following:

1. foundation

2. floorplans, 1 per

4. exterior elevation

5. cross section

6. electrical

7. interior elevation

8. perspective

9. construction notes/details

10. materials list

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#72
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How many cars? 8-O Our house will have a space for one car (under a roof but not in the garage) a motorbike and some bikes (all bikes in a shed). If some of the kids will have their own car before they move out (IMHO 40 % chance), they can park on the street.

> they can park on the street. If the HOA allows it... ;)

Or the town. It's very common in places that get snow for on-street parking to be prohibited during 5 or so months of the year because of the potential need for snow plowing.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#73

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> Your typical signal family neighborhood has the following requirements Maybe in your city. A home designed for Texas is not a good home in Calgary.

Why?

Texas doesn't have a subarctic climate

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#74
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For my amusement, I presume you're from US or UK. How much do you usually pay for a house project? For comparison, I've paid around $2000 for whole family house project, it's not just plans but also heat-loss computation, heating systems plans etc. Country CZ (EU). It's two story house made of "bricks", with gas+wood+heat pump heating systems. I would say pretty classical here. For ~$270k, not counting the property.…

In Canada you are typically looking at approx 10-15k for drawings and to build the home you will spend anywhere from 400-Plus CAD per sq/meter depending on what kind of finish you want. This price is for a brick home, wooden frame, asphalt shingle roof. Nothing fancy. Typically drawings don't include any of the rough in like plumbing and electrical. That is designed on the fly by the contractor who does the work. House are typically built like shit since people only want to invest in the finish and don't care about the mechanical piece since it is out of sight and out of mind. If you can GC your own house, you can pick the contractors and supervise the construction and the quality of work will be better. If you hire a General Contractor, they will typically charge cost/plus 15% -20%. Most folks in Canada and the US buy houses that are built by large corporations where they have no control over the quality, etc. They just pick a model from the handful offered when there is a new development.There are few incentives or subsides. The US is very similar.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#75
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The earthship biotecture project is really neat, thanks for sharing.

Its best to take and use the principles of it in another house. I personally don't want a bunch of tires breaking down and leaking chemicals and fumes into my house over a couple decades. Also much of the savings are from using your labor or volunteer/intern labor rather than paying someone else.

There's a good critique of the earthship from a decade ago called 'hacking the earthship' : http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Earthship-Search-Earth-Shelter...

https://web.archive.org/web/20170505101559/http://archinia.c...

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#76

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> Your typical signal family neighborhood has the following requirements Maybe in your city. A home designed for Texas is not a good home in Calgary.

Why?

Humidity is one difference that comes to mind.

In most of Texas, the air outside is humid, you need a moisture barrier between your structural wall and your rainscreen/siding.

In Calgary, cold winters will have very dry air, so the humidity will be much higher inside the house. So the moisture barrier needs to be on the other side.

In either case, you don't want the insulation layer or the structural layer to be collecting condensation from the humidity / temperature differential, or you will get mold.

Disclaimer: not a builder, just deal with humid climate.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#77
I want to respond here because I actually built (am still building) my own house. I looked around for this type of thing back when I started, which was 2008. At the time I didn't really find anything. My wife and I ended up drawing it out ourselves, and my dad and I ended up sort of winging it during construction. As in, "These plans don't quite work here, so we'll make these adjustments right now." It should be said also that neither I nor my wife are architects. At the time I would have said my dad was an extremely experienced and proficient amateur builder (he also built his house around 1980), and that I was just an amateur. After 15 years of working on this project, I will call myself a proficient amateur as well. I know that we could have done better at planning - I did not know enough about building before we started and relied too heavily on my dad during those times. If I had the opportunity to do it a second time, it would be better, but I'm not doing it! (Probably).

Here are some of the benefits of building your own house:

1. You know everything about it. Well, some things you forget, but most of it remains in the back of your mind. "Didn't I run some extra wire here just in case?"

2. You learn all of the skills that you will need to maintain your home, if you don't already have them. This means you never need a handyman (but your weekends are shot).

3. Just like nobody will watch your money like you, nobody will build your house like you. There are a lot of really crappy houses being built in 2023, and for the last 75 years or so. The reason for the crappiness, of course, is money.Being able to make the decision to use quality building materials instead of collecting 10% more profit, for example, can result in a really big improvement over conventional building.

4. It's really satisfying living in your handiwork. I'm sure there are more reasons - I can't write all day.

Now the pitfalls and reasons it sucks:

1. It's really frustrating living in your handiwork. For me, every time I walk past something that still needs my attention, it's a little stressor. Of course that's not too different from regular homeownership, I think. There are also a lot of times that I wish I would have planned it better.

2. Regulations (and financing) are really, really not in favor of building your own home. Unless you are a professional builder as well. Permits will expire way too soon, you won't understand their processes, they won't understand your processes. Assuming you need to borrow money, the bank won't know what the hell to do. They will literally freak out and nobody will be able to help you. This is too far outside of their routines.

3. It's a lifetime commitment. I mean, I guess it doesn't have to be, but for me it definitely feels that way. I built too big, and now I'm stuck working on it for what feels like forever.

Also, I'm in a temperate climate (Georgia, USA) where I don't have to worry about cold weather too much. I'm back in the woods where people don't ask too many questions. I have the support of my family, which I couldn't have done without. Overall, I'm happy with where I am. I usually enjoy the work, and at this point I don't mind taking time to do other things as well.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

#79
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Here's the thing: The idea of planning a house without taking into account the site where it will sit will never produce a good house. Would a pre-existing plan account for the sun exposure of your land? Would it have a roof that makes sense for how much it rains or snows? Would getting sunlight in the bedroom also mean facing traffic? Would it take advantage of elevation for views or make sure to block a nearby neig…

While you are not wrong, those requirements are the same for all houses. Your typical signal family neighborhood has the following requirements: There will be room to store at least 3 cars, and at least 2 of them will be indoors. The path from the street to where the cars are stored will avoid hitting things with the car. All this means that every house will have a 3 car garage up front with a straight driveway to th…

My house has no garage, but a semi-circular driveway plus a spur that means that we could park 9-10 full sized vehicles. There are basically no houses here with a 3 car garage, and rather few with a 2 car garage. Houses without garages are fairly common.

It rains here, but it also snows here -- so a roof that can shed water but not hold the weight of 3 feet of snow is not suitable. Putting our roof on a house in Georgia would just be a waste of money.

Some ground can deal with basements. Most of Florida can't, so they build on slabs. Then they need to put the HVAC and plumbing somewhere that isn't the basement.

A house in Florida should be designed to withstand hurricanes and floods. A house in California should expect frequent minor earthquakes.

My backyard view is great. My front view is of a road. Planning for those in the wrong direction would be bad.

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