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Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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> where I can flex my engineering skills without BS Not to be snarky, but it depends on how good you are and where you are (and have a track record of being). I don't know you but when most people complain about "BS" they're complaining about the fact that they have to justify their priorities, projects, and timelines or interact with other departments. This is exactly what high paid SWE work is these days. You can h…

> This is exactly what high paid SWE work is these days. You can have less collaboration by moving to infra, but it'll still be the norm. As someone who made the switch to infra, don't do it. The same problems mentioned before will become uncontrollable roadblocks to you getting real work done and you'll have zero power to do anything about it. You do get to provide enormous amounts of value but typically only when t…

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Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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Stop chasing dreams instead. Life is not a Hollywood movie. Not everyone is going to get a famous billionaire. Adjust your expectations to reality, and stop thinking so highly of yourself, stop judging others. Assume the responsibility for the things that happen in your life. It is kind of annoying to read your text, it is always some external thing that "happened" to you, and it is always other people who are not up…

Hmm I guess what I said can come off as condescending. But I was trying to condense all of my experience in less than 4k words, and I guess I came out sounding a bit like an asshole based on your comment.

Trust me, I don't think that highly of myself. Even when I was getting good perf reviews, I constantly was critical of myself as not doing a good enough job. I had bad burn out for several years and it made me feel like I couldn't do my job anymore. My self confidence was very bad, and I still struggle with imposter syndrome in my current role.

Many of the things I described above, I used to blame myself for as if they were entirely my fault. It was only after working with a therapist I was able to reframe these events as being out of my control. Which helped me get out of the hole I was in. So I disagree it's bad to blame external events - I actually think that's a very healthy way to look at the bad things that happen to us.

By saying I want to work with people that care like I do, I mean people who are passionate about engineering and want to do a good job. I've found that incredibly hard to find. Morale in general just seems to be poor.

I probably just need to be realistic. It seems the kind of dream team I want to be on is very rare. I had it once in my career so far, and didn't even realize what I had at the time.

> The impression I get is that you must be someone incredibly annoying to work with

I'm actually a pushover, which is a problem. I go out of my way to make everyone I work with happy, at my own expense. Despite being an introvert, I'm the person organising social events, checking in on my team members who seem down, and trying to help everyone to get along. But I guess my inner dialogue makes me sound like an asshole, which is fair enough. I think I can be overly critical of others (and myself, first of all).

> Stop looking outside, work on yourself instead.

Yes, this is a good point and what I'm trying. I find my FAANG job very stressful, and it makes it hard for me to relax outside of work. Maybe my next challenge is just learning to disconnect from work as much as possible. Easier said then done.

Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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The "I will be happy when" trap is a dangerous one. Work on being content with that you have. Your health, your family, your friends, your hobbies. The fact that you live in 2023 and have the entire world of entertainment and information at your fingertips, something no human in the previous 200,000 years had. > Everyone says ... a true engineer's paradise. I've never had this impression of FAANG. I always figured th…

Re. FAANG I feel this must have been true at some point? I knew people who worked at these places in the 2010s and they loved it. I think I must have missed the golden period. There are probably still great teams with great culture at these places but they are difficult to get into and are the minority now.

And you're right, my expectations absolutely set me up for failure.

Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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I’ve found two ways to rekindle my love for coding/programming after I experienced similar disillusionment: 1) switched to information security. I found reverse engineering, doing CTFs, and hacking things in general brought back the sense of joy I’d lost. So I took a job reverse engineering/exploiting embedded devices with half the pay and loved it, which ended up being one of the best places I’ve worked (and the pay…

> switched to information security. I found reverse engineering, doing CTFs, and hacking things in general brought back the sense of joy I’d lost.

This really resonates with me. I did a binary exploitation class in my M.S. where we did weekly CTFs. I really, really enjoyed this - thanks for reminding me. Do you have any tips for breaking into the industry?

Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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Have you thought about counseling? It sounds like you have a good income and might be able to afford one. Often people think they just help you with mental illness but they can help you figure out your goals.

Yes I've done almost 2 years now of therapy. It's partially how I pulled myself out of my depressing hole and went after one of my dreams (join a FAANG). Despite how disillusioned I sound here, I'm actually in a better place now mentally than I was in the last 5 years.

Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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I’m a medical doctor and I wish I became I software engineer instead.

I have a very good friend who is a medical doctor and swapped to engineering. He bought some books and self studied. He's now working his dream job at a biotech startup trying to extend life, using both of his skills simultaneously. Based on what he tells me I'd say there is a large demand for the niche crossover of M.D. + SWE in the startup space right now.

Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

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You probably work at Meta. I am same age (over 40). If you are E6+, you have more lean-way on what type of projects you pick. Make sure to switch teams if you are not happy with your current situation/org, and make sure to get a good director (not, M1, or M2) to back you. If you find a mature leader in your org, to back your initiatives, you will have a lot more leanway into what type of projects you pick and what ty…

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Re: Ask HN: Tired of being a software engineer, what next?

#79

> It is stressful for all the wrong reasons. Could you elaborate on this?

It's pretty much the performance culture. It adds a level of stress which impedes my ability to do a good job. I also see a negative effect it has on others and the org's behaviour.
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