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Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by laserlight »

dijit wrote: post #22
laserlight wrote: post #20

I plan to switch to iPhone 13 mini, which unfortunately will be the last small form factor iPhone.

You will be shocked to learn (as was I) that the iPhone Mini is the same size as the iPhone 6- which is what I considered to be too large for my tiny mitts. https://imgur.com/a/W5b7RDF

Yep. Width-wise iPhone 13 mini is just 3 mm narrower than iPhone 6 [0]. On the positive side, it has sharp edges allowing a better grip than iPhone 6's rounded edges.

[0] https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphoneSE,iph...

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by taylodl »

captn3m0 wrote: post #66

It is still unclear if support is being dropped. Apple promised updates to iOS14 after 15 was released, but went back on that promise. iOS 15.7 fixed a bunch of security issues and was released along with iOS 16. Apple has been silently maintaining iOS12, releasing 12.5.6 in August 2022 for eg: > Available for: iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch (6th generation). No…

I'm still regularly using an iPad Mini 3 (released in 2014) that's limited to iOS 12. I got the iOS 12 updates that you mentioned. I look at it as it's been eight years and I'm still getting security updates - that's awesome!

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by Kirby64 »

tazjin wrote: post #25
nicolaslem wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> those adapters actually draw a surprising amount of power if they have a DAC! Do they? Intuitively I would imagine that they do not consume much more than the same DAC inside the phone. I use such adapters a lot and never really noticed anything out of the ordinary related to battery life nor the part with the DAC getting warmer. On the other hand, the sound quality of these adapters is surprisingly good, in the sa…

Maybe it's more noticeable because this phone has a really tiny battery, but yeah. I actually went through a few adapters to find one that worked, because some of them (e.g. the one Apple makes) actually only wire up a DAC inside the phone to the physical 3.5mm connector. The Palm phone doesn't have a DAC though ... Maybe the one I have (by a company called Baseus, which I've never heard of before) just sucks and it…

The 3.5mm adapters that Apple makes absolutely include a DAC themselves. Not sure where you get the idea that they don't.

Both the USB-C and the Lightning versions are all digital on the port side.

There are very few USB-C analog -> 3.5mm adapters, strictly because there is so many compatible issues (i.e., you need to support the alternate mode, AND you need to map the pins correctly).

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by GiorgioG »

iPhone 13 mini. My son wore an SE to relay his blood sugar (type 1 diabetic) readings to us through his Dexcom. The SE finally crapped out at hockey practice while he had a low BG so we decided to buy a 13 mini. It doesn’t feel much bigger than the SE, yet the screen is larger.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by mikrl »

PostOnce wrote: post #50
doctor_eval wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this was a joke, but... The walled city of Athens when Socrates lived measured about 1.5 km (0.93 mi) in diameter.¹ Moscow is among the world's largest cities; the city covers an area of 2,511 square kilometers.² Access to personal transport is an essential part of modern daily life, without which it is difficult to work, live, and even, sometimes, eat. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Athens ² https:…

And yet enormous Moscow somehow functioned before we invented iPhones less than 20 years ago...

Akchually the Russian economy was in the toilet until the mid 00s which is also when the iPhone was invented.

I’m kidding of course, but those systems that kept the city running are probably obsolete and forgotten about in the 2020s.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by avn2109 »

TwoFerMaggie wrote: post #48

I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari. I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, remov…

>> "... and relatively small form factor..."

Small phones get a ton of love on HN, it's a perennial winner.

But as an anecdotal counterpoint, I am six foot seven with hands (and thumbs) to match, and never met a phone which seems even remotely too large. Even the most phablet-themed Androids with a reputation for cartoonishly giant screens strike me as pretty reasonable.

The trend towards ever-larger phones is great IMHO, I consider it compensation for a lifetime of airplane seats and whacking head on doorways etc.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by CodeyWhizzBang »

jstx1 wrote: post #5

To be fair to Apple, the 1st gen SE came out in 2016 with a 2015 chip and a 2012/2013 body, supporting it for this long is very impressive. There's still the later generations SE (I'm very happy with my SE2) or the 13 mini.

I do agree with you that Apple have done well to support this.

But also 2016 is only 6 years ago. It's not just Apple thing, but it really doesn't feel sustainable for us to keep write off our hardware every half a decade.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by ppetty »

dijit wrote: post #61
ppetty wrote: post #58

If it still starts up what prevents its use as a mobile phone? If it’s dead and you’re looking to replace the iPhone mini 12 or 13 (refurbished or new 13) are great options.

Eventually your banking applications will fail to support the old (potentially insecure) version of iOS.

That makes sense, to an extent. But tossing it in a drawer, from others’ posts, seems extreme. Calling, texting and many other functions may work well for a while. Bank apps may not get updated leaving web access as an alternative though maybe convenient.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by skyyler »

_trackno5 wrote: post #2

I ended up moving to an iPhone 12 mini. As much as I liked the original SE form factor, I really appreciated some things like bigger and better screen and face id. I use mine as an mp3 player connected to some speakers at home. If I were in your position I’d just get an iPhone 13 Mini since it’s the last iPhone with a small form factor. Another option is to look for smaller android devices, but i doubt anything will…

Also using a 12 mini.

If I ever upgrade, it will be to a 13 mini right after they get discontinued.

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