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Re: Ask HN: It's always the people isn't it?

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Post by danparsonson » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 9:27 AM UTC

mbrodersen wrote: post #70

danparsonson wrote: post #33

Without knowing anything about your specific situation, if you regularly find that you have bad relationships with your colleagues, then perhaps there is an opportunity for you to make a change somewhere in your own life? In my personal experience I haven't had too many problems with coworkers and on the rare occasion that I did, with hindsight I was at least partly responsible for the difficulties I encountered and…

I have worked for a company where I didn't get along with 95% of the people. And yet I worked fine with 99% of people in every other company I have ever worked for. So sometimes it actually isn't you that's the problem. Sometimes your personality simply doesn't fit the company culture. By the way the company I didn't get along with was the worst performing one. They reported $ millions in losses every year and was co…

That does indeed sound awful, glad you got out. I think low morale can be infectious and once things have gone downhill far enough, the rot becomes self-sustaining. Very unpleasant.

Re: Ask HN: It's always the people isn't it?

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Post by majewsky » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 9:38 AM UTC

barrysteve wrote: post #67

edent wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes a job is just a job. It puts bread on the table. Nothing more. Most people aren't working on something they care about.

You and badpun who replied below, equate meaning with care/not caring. Care or don't that's fine. It is meaning though. You've already committed to a particular meaning and are just making a point about what you'll give up to have less of it. I won't touch that with a ten foot pole though. You devour the aim, the target and split your life in two, 8hrs at work, 8hrs asleep, when are you living?

Obviously during the other 8 hours.

There is no requirement that you need to be generating meaning every hour of the day. In fact, it's pretty much impossible. There's no way to derive a deeper meaning from the 8 hours spent sleeping. It's just a thing you have to do to survive, and being alive is a prerequisite for finding meaning at some point. Depending on personal circumstances, it's absolutely reasonable to look at work (or rather, the salary) as another necessary prerequisite for attaining whatever meaning one is looking for.

Re: Ask HN: It's always the people isn't it?

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Post by jeffdoolittle » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

The problem is people, and the solution is people, and that's the problem.

Re: Ask HN: It's always the people isn't it?

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Post by mbrodersen » Sat, Sep 24, 2022, 1:15 AM UTC

danparsonson wrote: post #71

mbrodersen wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have worked for a company where I didn't get along with 95% of the people. And yet I worked fine with 99% of people in every other company I have ever worked for. So sometimes it actually isn't you that's the problem. Sometimes your personality simply doesn't fit the company culture. By the way the company I didn't get along with was the worst performing one. They reported $ millions in losses every year and was co…

That does indeed sound awful, glad you got out. I think low morale can be infectious and once things have gone downhill far enough, the rot becomes self-sustaining. Very unpleasant.

Thanks and yes I think you are right. Unfortunately most people automatically starts to behave in a way that fits the culture. Even if the culture is toxic.