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> The upfront cost is slightly higher, the print quality is slightly decreased but the long term satisfaction is greatly enhanced. OK but they still stop updating the drivers after 3 years, which is the main problem. Otherwise they would last forever.
"updating the drivers" no Good printers use PS/PCL, nobody cares about drivers, a generic one usually works
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Serious photographers printing at home are using dye sub instead of ink jet
Which also means you're printing frequently enough to be worth the maintenance hassles. Less frequently, you're better off sending out to a service (says guy who still has a pile of wet darkroom stuff).
This is from experience designing/operating photo booth kiosks based on dye sub printers.
I used to work for Lexmark, back when they were in the inkjet business. They are perhaps most notable for starting and fueling the race to the bottom in printer price. The theory was that if you could lock the users in, the customer lifetime value would be made on selling profitably prices supplies (i.e. the ink cartridge). There were a few big problems with this: - People often could buy a new printer, with supplies…
Just an anecdote: my grandfather passed away a few years ago and he was always into new technology. After he passed when we were cleaning up his home we found no fewer than 11 inkjet printers in his basement. Every time one stopped working (probably ran out of ink, or printed poorly because of long delays between printing) he would go to Best Buy, get talked up by a salesperson about a nice new printer, and buy it. I…
The printer industry is horrible, but also HP is toxic at every level and across every product and service. Just avoid.
> People that do print at home, are mostly photographers that want physical prints of their photos. And parents printing color-in pages of Elsa and Anna
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Just an anecdote: my grandfather passed away a few years ago and he was always into new technology. After he passed when we were cleaning up his home we found no fewer than 11 inkjet printers in his basement. Every time one stopped working (probably ran out of ink, or printed poorly because of long delays between printing) he would go to Best Buy, get talked up by a salesperson about a nice new printer, and buy it. I…
He may have been smart. Cost of printer with starter ink was occasionally cheaper then just getting new ink.
As an aside, my grandfather was a terrific guy. He bought a Gateway 2000 PC in the 90's and spent lots of time with me getting Sim City 2000 loaded up on it. He always had some gadget to show me since he knew how much I loved technology and he was very good at it for someone of his generation. I don't begrudge recycling 11 printers as I cleaned up his house and it always gives my dad and I a good laugh and nice memories of an important person in my life.
Laser printers are the way to go. They are typically for offices and follow a different business level: large volume printing and low-cost ink.
Anything color that's reasonably priced?
I had good luck with Oki printers (most of them come with Duplex unit, Ethernet and all OS support), a lot of people are very happy with Brother printers.
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> The money is made on the ink/coffee, and machines are pushed at a discount to dominate the ink/coffee distribution. Some years ago Walmart had a HP printer on sale for so cheap that it was more expensive to replace the ink than to get a new printer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_and_blades_model
It does take longer to shave with a safety razor since you need two or three passes but its a better shave with a lot less pain afterwards and its an insane amount cheaper.
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Just an anecdote: my grandfather passed away a few years ago and he was always into new technology. After he passed when we were cleaning up his home we found no fewer than 11 inkjet printers in his basement. Every time one stopped working (probably ran out of ink, or printed poorly because of long delays between printing) he would go to Best Buy, get talked up by a salesperson about a nice new printer, and buy it. I…
He may have been smart. Cost of printer with starter ink was occasionally cheaper then just getting new ink.
What did Brother do to join the "dark side"? I and lots of other folks love our Brother laser printers. I haven't heard of them doing anything evil...