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Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#71
post #7

your boss refuses to give you feedback on why you didn't get a pay raise? email their manager and ask them why you didn't get a pay raise because your manager isn't answering questions. Also, important: did you clearly indicate you wanted/expected one beforehand?

>Also, important: did you clearly indicate you wanted/expected one beforehand?

yup

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#73
post #15

No pay rise is pretty common in most companies in most years. You should think about what you really want. Do you want higher comp? Or do you want to work less? or a change to a different role? Promotion? Time off? Dont ask us what is best for you.

Higher comp. always.

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#74
post #71
post #7

your boss refuses to give you feedback on why you didn't get a pay raise? email their manager and ask them why you didn't get a pay raise because your manager isn't answering questions. Also, important: did you clearly indicate you wanted/expected one beforehand?

>Also, important: did you clearly indicate you wanted/expected one beforehand? yup

Yes, this is a skip-level discussion. Don't threaten to leave, or anyhting. Just patiently ask why you're not getting feedback (written or verbal) on why you didn't get a raise. Make it clear you're interested in learning precisely what you need to do to qualify for one.

If at that point they dont' give you actionable feedback, get a competitive job offer and share it with the head of HR at your company along wiht a short note saying that you can't afford to keep working there.

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#75
Regarding your last couple points, are you being asked to work on the weekends or are you just doing it? Is the stuff you're doing over the weekends needed for Monday, or is it gold plating stuff that wouldn't otherwise be completed? Said another way, is it affecting timelines positively or is stuff shipping the same day regardless?

Saying either one of "I'm very offensive when it comes to handling projects" or "I often have problem[s] with my team" by themselves would be enough for you not to get any sort of raise IMO (or worse).

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#76
post #69
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very unlikely that a developer hired 4+ years ago is compensated in line with market rates. The market has gone bananas in that time and it would be very rare for a company proactively give raises big enough to match.

It's not unlikely at all. I've seen it many times.

Many people have won the lottery. That doesn't make it likely.

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#78
I'm an older engineer and having been in your shoes, here is my advice:

The best way to get a pay raise is to change your job. This is how the industry works.

Many people fail to realize that their relationship with the company is a contractual one and nothing else. Sure, your coworkers are most likely pleasant to be around but that does not change the _nature_ of a corporation. It exists to simply generate profits for itself and has no other goals.

This is why getting emotionally attached to your work is a mistake because sooner or later it will harm you in some way (burnouts, preventing career growth, slowing financial growth,..). Companies know this of course and usually use it to take advantage of people. What do you think all those ping-pong tables, free foods, team building "exercises", lectures about how we are in the trenches together, etc are supposed to achieve? All those are meant to amplify one's emotional investment to a soulless corporation.

Still not convinced? Just look a the CEO of bolt right now with his emotionally charged war speech as the ship is sinking.. Lord knows what he is saying to his team internally to squeeze a few extra cents out of them before the end.

But I digress; Yes, you should quit if you are unhappy. Don't go to your boss, don't "discuss it", all that will do is paint a cross on your back if they find out.

Start interviewing, as soon as you have a position you like, hand in your resignation letter and rotate off. No feelings hurt, nothing unprofessional this simply business.

Remember that you are a professional and your health and happiness of yourself, loved ones and family members is what takes priority over everything else.

Best of luck!

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#79
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if I agree with this approach. I would say ask for a raise without showing you have an offer from another company. If they don't then leave. I feel like it is awkward to show them that you have offer and then stay. But It could be just me.

Personally, I don't care if they feel awkward, nor do I care to be perceived as loyal in matters of business. The awkward exchange wouldn't need to happen if they ensured that they're employees felt taken care of. You shouldn't feel accountable for that.

True, you have a point. Personally, if I wasn't fairly compensated I would just leave. I can understand that there could be situations that changing jobs might not be straight forward.

Re: Ask HN: I did not get pay rise – as only person in team. Should I quit?

#80
"I'm not afraid to criticize some stupid ideas", "I'm very offensive", "I work hard", "I often have some silly conflicts", "I often have problem with my team".

Yes, you should quit and you should stay as far away from anything that requires social skills whatsoever. And also, what is wrong with you other people here?

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