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On Mac you can do shift+option+command+v to paste with formatting removed.
I think you just need to add shift, option is not necessary.
It's optional
Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
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Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#72It seems most of my posts here end up being a complaint about MS Teams. So here is another. Teams will happily take the formatting of "black text" from copying from Word for example. But anyone who is using a dark theme on Teams now can't read it because it "intelligently" kept the formatting that didn't even matter because it was just "plain back text". Had it been copied from something that didn't specify that form…
Does making the background in Word white and not just "default" fix this?
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#73It’s threads like this that remind me that this website is a niche website.
Computing today is meant for the general public. Remember WYSIWYG? Same principles apply here.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#74In many, but not all programs on windows you can paste plain text by using ctrl+shift+v. Outlook desktop is one of the few places where this hotkey does not work. Before I knew there was a native hotkey combo, I created a autohotkey script that would do that and had a mini-tutorial that showed how. https://forum.digikey.com/t/add-a-digi-key-search-hotkey-eve...
> In many, but not all programs on windows you can paste plain text by using ctrl+shift+v.
Sometimes that trick just stops working for no reason at all, then there's nothing else for it but to paste into notepad.exe and re-copy.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's incredibly annoying in Outlook. Every other Microsoft product I've used like Word supports the key-combo, but of course Outlook has to be different.
In word, Cntrl Shift V just applies formatting. You have to Ctrl V wait hit Cntrl again and then hit T.
And then there's Excel, where you need to do the same but it's Control + V instead of Control + T.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#76At least two people want to paste with formatting: https://www.alfredforum.com/topic/17398-clipboard-history-fe... I've seen this question asked again and again. Once, i saw an answer from someone who was a product manager on a big office tool, i think at Microsoft. Their answer was that according to their user research, the vast majority of users want to paste with formatting. Given how often this comes up, and how…
>the vast majority of users want to paste with formatting Oh, I highly doubt this is the case.
I think you overestimate the majority of users' ability to make good UX decisions.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#77I just paste it into the URL bar and re-copy. Ctrl+l, ctrl+v, ctrl+a, ctrl+c.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#78In many, but not all programs on windows you can paste plain text by using ctrl+shift+v. Outlook desktop is one of the few places where this hotkey does not work. Before I knew there was a native hotkey combo, I created a autohotkey script that would do that and had a mini-tutorial that showed how. https://forum.digikey.com/t/add-a-digi-key-search-hotkey-eve...
Oh wow I had always gotten into the habit of copying into a simple text editor first if I wanted to strip out the formatting.
I often copy to Notepad on Windows, but careful, some characters get silently dropped.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#79Copying anything other than the characters/code points/whatever by default is a misfeature. Should it be possible to copy formatting? Yes, of course, in those rare, specialized cases when it's useful and likely to work in a sane manner. Otherwise it's a bad idea.
I wish I could speak with the people behind text selection in Microsoft Word and other applications. The selection automatically expands to include additional characters, usually whitespace characters although other junk gets pulled in as well, and is a frustration. The behavior seems incoherent; grabbing extra characters for unfathomable reasons.
When the user expends effort to precisely select something this should be respected, not interpreted as an opportunity to apply whatever heuristic gymnastics someone, somewhere for some reason thought was a good idea.
Re: Ask HN: Who decided copy+paste should copy styling/formatting?
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's incredibly annoying in Outlook. Every other Microsoft product I've used like Word supports the key-combo, but of course Outlook has to be different.
Fucking Microsoft. Why can't things be simple and standardized?
backwards compatibility.
people who have been using those applications for decades do not want those shortcuts to change for any reason.