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Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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I'm sure you'll get a wide variety of answers here. As a software engineer, I like solving complex technical problems and learning software, management, and people skills. It doesn't matter to me what I'm doing as long as it's ethical and I can grow.

> As a software engineer, I like solving complex technical problems and learning software, management, and people skills. It doesn't matter to me what I'm doing as long as it's ethical and I can grow. Now I'm in completely the wrong forum to say this, as this place obviously favors one view, but can you say that building companies just for the purpose of profits is actually ethical?

I don't understand why you think profit is a bad thing.

Ignoring broken markets like in the case of monopolies (and my company is a small one--definitely not a monopoly!), profit means you're creating value. People are willing to pay you more money than something costs to produce. That's a good thing for everyone involved. It creates jobs, customers are happy, and investors make money.

"Profit" isn't just a bunch of extra cash that gets buried in the ground. It goes back to shareholders (again, ignoring outliers like Apple which horde cash...) and gets reinvested in other profitable enterprises creating even more value.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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There is only one purpose in life… to make yourself happy! In the grand scheme of the universe nothing you do matters therefore there is no point in chasing anything but your own happiness! Speaking for myself I love writing software per se… I don’t care what that software is for (the joy for me is the technological challenge and the design… I don’t care what real world problem the software itself address). Past that the money you earn help you in finding joy in other things like hobbies, a family… friends!

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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> Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

Helping people is what works for me. You can help people at different scales and in different ways in the private sector. These people could be your teammates or your customers.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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Many decades ago I used to work for an outfit that created operations management solutions which in turn enabled banks to streamline ATM services and phone companies to easily manage pay phones. It even allowed Disney to provide a better customer experience at their theme parks! As a result of this software both ATMs and pay phones proliferated. (If you're old enough remember when pay phones started appearing at every gas station and you could drive up to them?) In the end one could literally see how their software was improving the day-to-day lives of others.

Next I worked for a manufacturing automation outfit. Our solutions helped streamline manufacturing operations and made it quick and easy to reconfigure a line to manufacture a variant. One of our more well-known customers who makes diapers used our system to manufacture several different diaper varieties off the same line. This improved manufacturing efficiency which lowered manufacturing costs and the savings in turn were split between the investors and the customers. Your diapers are cheaper to buy, investors are making more money, manufacturing is staying in the United States and local communities are getting more tax revenue. It's a win all the way around.

For the past couple of decades I've been working for a public utility providing electricity. While my work doesn't directly involve the generation of electricity, I do work to make sure that electricity is generated as efficiently as possible. Being a regulated utility those savings are split between the investors and the customers (the regulators manage that). I also work to inform customers of any abnormal situations with their service, which is typically an outage. We now provide customers the means to determine what's going on and when their power will be restored. Seeing how electrical power is the bedrock of modern civilization I see this as very important work.

Bottom line - I've worked in private industry my entire 30+ year career and I've always been working to improve people's lives. Yes, it is profit-driven but the goal is to improve efficiencies and split the savings with the customer. Everybody wins.

THAT is what you're looking for - opportunities to save people time or especially save them money or provide them a service they've never had before. Remember, making money isn't the point of a business anymore than breathing is the point of living. Yes, a business must make money to stay in business just as you must breath in order to stay alive, but the point of living isn't just to breath. When you interview see if your business understands this and if they don't, move on. Don't waste your time with people thinking the whole point of being in business is to make money.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in healthcare technology. The software I wrote saved two people's life last week. So, yeah. Purpose.

Kudos, but is there a flip side of the coin, where the software you write can cost someone life (if you screw something up/introduce a bug)?

I'm in remote patient monitoring, so while that's unlikely, it is a horrifying possibility that keeps me up at night.

If our API that accepts readings from devices goes down, real people's health could be at risk.

We have multiple levels of redundancy, including at the device level, but it is the point of highest stress.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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Helping the users of my system by making things faster and / or more obvious is motivating. Improving the code is motivating. Providing for my family is motivating. Keeping our super small business afloat is motivating (I’m blessed to work on a small team with people I like.)

Edit: I worked for the govt for all of 2 weeks— a mistake I won’t make again. I hope you find satisfaction with whatever you choose.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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People are driven by a desire for mastery, or the enjoyment of their colleagues and/or customers, or the actual impact of the work.

The fact that most businesses aren't saving the world, they are just making money is why so many pretend to be about saving the world. See: Silicon Valley's episode in season 1 about TechCrunch Disrupt.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find your sense of purpose working in the private sector?

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I spent the last decade working for private vendors whose customers are in the public sector. When self-owned/bootstrapped, it has been a lovely balance. When VC-owned, it has been more soul crushing than you could imagine.

But you can use that knowledge to find a good home - look at the SaaS products your public sector orgs use, find one that is still small, and see what help they need. There are some great groups, and great people in this niche.

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